• MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Let’s just rename the EU to “United Earth” like in Star Trek, since Australia is practically in it already on account of being in Eurovision.

    That way we don’t need to change the initials, just swap them.

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      I mean we did kinda get our asses kicked in 1812 after we started a war the president would later say we were unprepared for.

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      I’m not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it’s some sort of gotcha. It doesn’t mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.

      The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.

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        A lot of people don’t get it until they see it in action.

        My union recently had a vote about increasing health benefits. “No” won in one of the categories because there were 3 options for how much to increase it by. (Yes won by 76% while the no beat the top yes 24% to 23%)

        I pointed this out at the next meeting and we had a vote and struck the no vote. Later a bunch of people said thanks for pointing that out, and my reply was “no sweat, we have the same problem with our elections.”

        Then everyone applauded and Einstein gave me a piece of π. Just kidding, it was more like weird looks and a couple agreements, but I like to think I brought the issue to a few people’s attention.

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        It’s not about being a “gotcha” - it’s about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.

        You’re right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:

        1. Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.

        2. Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it’s “too complex” or “un-Canadian” becomes much harder to maintain.

        3. Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.

        The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don’t extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.

        The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.

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        There would be voting changes , I believe, something about EU membership requiring a certain type of voting system. Eg. Not FPP

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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          Hungary’s system is half proportional, half FPP on steroids, but it’s just as bad as FPP since our FPP lets the winner not just take the seat, but also extra votes into the proportional part of the race.

          So, no, the EU is fine with everything, the only thing is that EU citizens have to be able to vote in local elections wherever we live, regardless of citizenship. That means if you join, and I rent a place in Toronto and move in, I get a vote for the Toronto mayor on day one.

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    Guys guys guys, let’s be good friends with the EU, let’s even adopt some of their best policies, but honestly, they also have some baggage we don’t need.

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      13 days ago

      Any reasons why these two neighborhoods go against the grain? Are they the posh suburbs?

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    At a minimum any states bordering Canada, including those bordering the 4 Great Lakes shared with Canada, should get a vote of which country to go with.

    Pennsylvania is 100% included, and honestly if Indiana and Illinois go for it despite being on the “wrong” Great Lake, I’m not going to complain.

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    The EU 🇪🇺 is more than welcome to include Canada 🇨🇦 as the 28th member state 🤝

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    Honestly do people think this we’ll happen cause Brussels has already said no.

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    Let the GOP force them to become a state. They’d get 2 senate seats and more electoral college votes and congressional seats than any other state. Just in time for the Dems to run on deannexing Canada.

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        Territories are still citizens, who can vote when they reside in states. If 2-3% of Canada immigrated, that’s 1 million people, which would shift the balance in a lot of places.

        Of course, even if you shifted 10 seats in the Senate, the democrats would probably give republicans half the budget and let them write their own bills in the name of bipartisanship (again), and you’d quickly become as hopeless as the average american is in the democrats helping them.

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    Pretty please yes! I would love to leave to US for the EU. But that hop across the water is very difficult for me to afford.