• lugal@feddit.de
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    Germany and our problematic relationship to Israel… I hope this works. German media still refuses to talk about genocide in Gaza and calls those who do victim blaming

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      I found it very shocking how “in sync” the German news media is. I don’t quite understand what the mechanism here is (compared to US where it’s much more clear how it works).

      It is especially hypocritical because of the outrage against the AfD and demonstrations about lies and fascist propaganda that is used on social media, but then clearly we can see they’ve been lying and manipulating us for decades. How can they be surprised that angry people are don’t believe the “official version” any more? This is one of the symptoms that is feeding the rise of fascism in Germany - and in all western democracies.

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      You never seem to figure out right from wrong, do you. What strikes me as odd is that you’re rather slow with supplies to your neighbours in the south for a warmongering tribe

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        I’m sorry, my English is bad. I don’t understand what you are trying to tell me

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            I mean we have two neighbors to the south but neither Austria nor Switzerland are warmongering tribes last time I’ve checked so 🤷‍♂️

            Edit: Or are we the warmongering tribe and should therefore supply Switzerland with weapons?

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                As I just learned, I belong to a warmongering tribe and you know the saying: if you are a hammer, everything is a nail. So yes, the Swiss needs weapons because they solve every problem

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              Sorry - I was referring to Ukraine - that’s probably more southeast.

              I do believe that ww1 and ww2 showed your warmongering side - and sending weapons into Israel so they can bomb kids are not much more honourable

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    So you ignore Katar, Iran etc. Massive Propaganda.

    Some analysts claim that Doha is a financial backer for Hamas. “Their financial support of $30 million per month is proven and public,” said Didier Billion, deputy director of the French Institute for International and Strategic Affairs (IRIS).

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/victims-hamas-attack-israel-families-blame-iran-new-federal-lawsuit-rcna136571

    Iran “masterminded and funded” the Oct. 7 attacks, a federal lawsuit alleges.

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      You already posted this absurd whataboutism take under the German article i linked. On my requests for claritfication on the points you made, you didn’t answer of course. Despite you claiming that Israel would have only received 20 Million € by Germany, when it was 300 Million €. Also you claimed that Iran selling weapons to Russia would have something to do with it, ignoring that Israel also sold drones to Russia that are in use in the war in Ukraine.

      Iran is neither responsible for Israel attacks on civillians, nor is it responsible for the full blockade of Gaza nor is it responsible for the genocidal intent that was shown in statements by Israeli officials. Statements by the Presiden, Prime minister, head of parliament, head of military that even the ICJ called out explicitly in its ruling on preliminary measures.

      Not even the Israeli defense made such absurd claims like you, that Iran would be responsible for Israels actions in Gaza.

      It is particularly shameful that Germans want to follow the “the other side made me do it” narrative of Israel in its genocidal actions. We full well know this narrative from the German history.

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      Why do Palestinians have to pay for the Holocaust that Germany inflicted on the Jews? You should have given your country to them as compensation and been exiled as refugees for the last 80 years. See how you’d feel about that.