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    When an election is called vote how you want, but beware. The trolls are already out in force trying to spread misinformation and lies.

    As Canadians we need to be diligent and fact check everything. Our elections need to remain fair and we will be tested every step of the way

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      Look. Even if you’re a lefty and think the Liberals are too far right, the alternative is WAY worse and our system requires strategic voting In certain districts where the left vote is split.

      I recommend sites like votewell.ca to figure out if you need to vote strategically.

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    I liked Chretien’s: “From one old guy to another, stop this nonsense!”

    Epic.

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    My two cents are that this strong is reaction to Trump and Poilievre. Liberals want a candidate that will stand up for Canada, and now is not the time to experiment. (Sadly, as a left-leaning Canadian, I agree).

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    I’ve never voted liberal, never liked chretien when I was young. Voted cons to give them a minority back in the day, saw what they did and said never fucking again. And have voted other parties since. But god damn, I’m going to vote for mark Carney.

    Not that my 86% conservative voting region will give a fuck.

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      Based on Carney’s speech, he’s aiming to take votes from both the NDP and the conservatives.

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        Yah which is good. But around here the conservative candidate could literally kill the voters parents and they would still vote for them. We have so many traitors its not even funny. Ive been inundated with pro trump wanting to be the 51st state fucks.

        I’ve noted them and if the war ever begins I have a very long list of people I am dragging out and executing in the fucking streets.

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          Ive been inundated with pro trump wanting to be the 51st state fucks.

          That’s a thing?

          Is it new, or was the sentiment around before Trump floated the idea?

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            Ive had trump 2024 flags around since 2020. Like I said I’ve made a list and people will be dragged into the street. But not until we reach a point of no return for these traitors.

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              But did they actually want to become a 51st state?

              I’m curious because, from my perspective in the US, this came out of the blue. But the idea is less random if some MAGA Canadians were ostensibly asking for it before.

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        Sadly, I do not think he will pull many conservatives. All he needs to do though is hold them to the 30% of wing it’s who love the blue and to pull enough NDP votes to win.

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          There’s loads of voters who go from conservative to liberal and vice versa - case in point - look at Ontario. Goes conservative provincially, now almost guaranteed to go liberal federally.

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            Clearly.

            However, look at the polls before and after the recent swing in Liberal fortunes. There is little movement in the conservatives. It mostly a shift to Liberal from NDP.

            So the Liberals have gotten back people protesting the Liberals, not people the genuinely like the Conservatives.

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      I generally don’t vote liberal, usually NDP. When the parties aren’t really that much different from each other I don’t mind putting my vote towards a long shot.

      But right now, when the options are

      1. Sell Canada out to Trump
      2. Not the above

      I’m basically obligated to ensure #2 wins

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    Just have to add: Carney will be Canada’s first ever PM (although he’s currently PM-designate) to be from the Northwest Territories. We have a Northern PM. I love this for us.

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      It seems really promising. Even my mother who voted MAGA in America really likes Carney. He is absolutely swaying many conservatives with how comically overqualified he is for the position.

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        I was taken aback by this random person’s statement, interviewed by the CBC about this. They were like “Well we all know that Poilievre is good, but Carney just seems better.” 🥹

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    I had no idea who Mark Carney was until I saw his interview with Jon Stewart. I thought the interview went pretty well but he’s obviously not as good at interviews as Jon. Definitely seems like an outsider and didn’t talk like a politician.

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    85.9% – that rounds to 86% not 85%

    I’m so glad I donated and voted. I’ve voted liberal since Trudeau’s first run, and prior to that I voted NDP (my local NPD candidate was awesome, and I knew him through charity work – I would have voted any party to support that guy).

    I’m thrilled with this news.

    I don’t dislike Freeland, but she would have been a disaster. I liked her in the debate, but I hated her campaign (in an alternative universe where Trudeau never ran, she’d have been great). She can’t brush off the last 9 years of her life – she was helping steer the LPC bus, there’s no getting around that. I’m glad she drove it into a fence and forced this vote though.

    Gould seemed good but I don’t think she would ever convert any Conservative voters, or even be a clear choice above NDP.

    I actually loved Baylis, I thought he killed the debate doing by far the best. I would support him.

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        Yes.

        I mentioned in another comment I don’t think she would be Trump’s foil, I think she would be his punching bag. She can take a punch, she seems damn tough, but I don’t think that’s what the country needs right now.

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    I missed the sub name and was momentarily hopeful the left in the US was going to get some kind of meaningful leadership.

    How silly of me.

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    Reminder of the Liberal’s record on proportional representation: “Liberals never wanted to “make every vote count.”… Electoral reform has become a bonbon offered at election. As far back as 1919, Liberals have campaigned on the promise of proportional representation

    Mark Carney’s position on electoral reform: “open”. However…

    1. He’s an economist, and the mathematics pairs quiet nicely with the mathematics of electoral systems.
    2. His public persona is that he is intelligent. But when asked specifically about electoral reform and proportional representation, he says he’s uncertain and open to exploring options? Why would someone as smart as him be uncertain about ensuring every vote counts?

    Only the Greens/NDP consistently support proportional representation.

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      Why would someone as smart as him be uncertain about ensuring every vote counts?

      Because it’s an absolute waste of political capital to make happen if there isn’t a strong movement fighting for it.

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        Even if there is no intention to improve our democracy, it’s a really low bar to just agree that every vote should count…

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          I agree, but I’m not the one you need to convince, it’s Terry on Facebook who spends 2 hours a day complaining about bike lanes and vegans.

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              If the stakes arent high then for the love of God stop posting about electoral reform so often.

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                In the conversation between you and me, where we already agree (mostly) on electoral reform, the stakes aren’t high.

                But otherwise, yes, the stakes are high.

                I apologize if my discussions on proportional representation are annoying, that’s not the intention. You can choose to ignore me or even block me if you feel inclined.