Prompt: mario as frodo in lotr
Steps: 20, Sampler: DPM++ 3M SDE Karras, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 1812310192, Size: 768x1280, Model hash: 74dda471cc, Model: realvisxlV20_v20Bakedvae, Clip skip: 2, RNG: CPU, Version: v1.6.0
Prompt: mario as frodo in lotr
Steps: 20, Sampler: DPM++ 3M SDE Karras, CFG scale: 7, Seed: 1812310192, Size: 768x1280, Model hash: 74dda471cc, Model: realvisxlV20_v20Bakedvae, Clip skip: 2, RNG: CPU, Version: v1.6.0
As an artist, you’re right. I can make my own with skills I’ve developed over years of practice.
And I imagine you are using some tools as well? Whether they be physical paint/brush/canvas/etc or digital ones?
Few artists are producing art out of thin air, using a tool to aid in the process is a natural part of creating art
How is typing in some words and having a system of stolen artwork spit out an image even remotely the same thing?
I’m not really saying it is, I’m just unsure where that line is.
Modifying existing artwork to make something new has always been a thing.
Is there a point where Photoshop might become too easy to use and then anyone using it is no longer an artist?
One could certainly argue that creating anything of actual value with AI does require a certain level of skill. That skill may be less of an artistic one and more of a technical one, but software developers also have value, even when the tools they use make it much easier than it was in the past.
I guess what I’m getting at is while I agree with you there’s a large gap between having the skill to create art yourself with a paintbrush and coaxing an AI into doing most of the work for you, I’m not sure it’s so black and white and the line is only going to get blurrier.
He’s just full of shit anyhow, AI doesn’t just magically give you what you want, and it definitely requires both skills to use and a good eye for art to know what is good and what is bad. Beyond that if other people who use AI are anything like me, it’s not a one and done situation, I often take an image from Photoshop to AI and back again tweaking things to get the image just right, it can take a LONG time to get a finished product. I don’t think I’ve ever been happy enough with what I got straight out of the box from image or text generation that I just ran with it and didn’t change anything on my own. These are powerful tools but they aren’t magic and they do require a lot more work than this idiot is asserting. Maybe there’s a program that does produce gold every time you hit generate, but I’m using Stable Diffusion and it’s not in any way the case for me.
People said the same thing about CGI, and look where we are now.
No they didn’t. That’s not the same thing either.
Okay. Well, let’s agree to disagree. But in 10 years, I garuntee that AI art will be a fact of life.
If I make a drawing of a character someone else created, in someone else’s style, have I stolen their artwork?
If I draw Gordon Freeman in John R. Dilworth’s style, what have I stolen from John?