• rab@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    People in Victoria want to ban everything. We also want to ban ebikes, off leash dogs, smoking, single use items, leaf blowers, sheltering in parks, outdoor fires, and all poor people. I see a headline like this every week here it feels like

    Also bunch of body shaming cunts in here, stay classy lemmy

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      11 months ago

      Get some better examples if you want sympathy.

      Off leash dogs are dumb, smoking is dumb and kills people, single use items are a huge waste of resources and source of pollution, leaf blowers are loud as fuck pollute like mad and generally pointless, and for a province that spends the majority of its time on fire outdoor fires tend to be a bad idea.

      Fuck trucks

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        Not looking for sympathy just saying that people who live here will never stop complaining

        A lot of people don’t need truck but how in the world is a full ban going to work when majority of contractors use light duty trucks lol. Have you ever been to Victoria? There are so many contractors and so many pickup trucks

        Increase the price of trucks maybe? Contractors will just push the cost down to customers and housing will be even more expensive then

        And what about the people who live north island and drive their truck into Victoria for groceries/hospital/whatever? Fuck em?

        The issue is actually that public transit sucks and there are plainly too many vehicles on the road, not specifically trucks are the problem ha. The people complaining in this article are people who never leave Victoria, I know the type very well

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          I used to be a contractor as an av installer here in Australia Very few people here in Australia with large trucks need them, and those that do are the people who are useless onsite, especially because they’re too large to park in busy areas, and they cost a lot to run (so you know the person doesn’t do much and gets paid a lot). They’re totally inefficient with productivity.

          In fact, you’ll never see couriers use them either because they don’t do anything well (even for cable deliveries).

          Here in Australia, there is talk about introducing a new license for them, and it’s well deserved. The kind of people attracted to emotional support vehicles don’t put in effort at all into parking, and they should require extra training and more restrictions . They boast about towing capacity too, so they should be required to train for those capacities

          Also, those kind of cars don’t handle driving well either honestly lol, because they’re so heavy. They have more clearance, that’s it. I don’t live there, but I seriously doubt your roads are so bad you need a 4wd and high clearance to get around. Here in Australia, such cars are always perfectly clean and definitely aren’t needed 99% of the time. In fact, the only people whining about roads here in Australia tend to be people justifying their large car, or people with impractical sports cars, and I’m willing to bet it’s an exaggeration there too

          There are contractors that should have one, but they’re extremely limited. Either get something for transporting people, or cargo

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            Type Vancouver Island logging road into YouTube, we really need the clearance out here unless you literally don’t leave the city as I said

            People here make money by fishing, logging, that sort of thing

            To prove my point look up 4x4 used vehicles on Vancouver Island vs mainland and compare prices, there is a massive demand for such vehicles on the island

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          I think most reasonable people don’t actually think there needs to be a full ban on these trucks. I do think that most people would agree that there needs to be some restriction/enforcement on where they can park. The picture at the top of the article is a good example, they don’t fit in lots of the angle parking spots right downtown. There are small car spots, there are micro car/motorcycle spots, maybe we need standard sized car spots. Big trucks can park in lots where they do fit or on the edge of downtown (I do that in my normal sized car if I can anyways because who wants to pay for parking?). As for your second to last point, no one’s going to drive 3+ hours from the north Island to Victoria to get groceries especially not in these trucks for $150+ of gas. No one would even drive from Saanich to get groceries in Victoria.

          I do agree about the transit though, it’s insane that travelling from Nanaimo to Victoria takes an entire day by public transport and anything north of that is simply impossible.

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          11 months ago

          Your view of all these problems is too myopic and binary to ever come to a reasonable conclusion on any of these topics.