• الشسمو هاظ@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Poor Palestinians… Their fate is in the hands of the good citizens of Israel. 🙄

    Palestinians are capable of voting and can vote Hamas out. Why should they not have an election? Hamas is willing to do it, the Palestinians are willing to do it, and the PA is too. Guess who DOESN’T concent to this?

    Just more excuses and justifications for a war meant to genocide them…

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      11 months ago

      Why should they not have an election?

      Because Hamas doesn’t want an election. They are in power. They got rid of Fatah in Gaza. Do you think if there would be a free and open election in Gaza, Israel could have stopped it before October 7th?

      At least Hamas stopped throwing their inner-Palestinian opposition off high-rise roofs since 2007, from what I heard. Now you might just mercifully get shot as an “Israeli spy”.

      I’m all for a free Palestine, but the way there isn’t Hamas for gods sake.

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        11 months ago

        The way there is by ending the occupation and allowing Palestinians to vote and be given their right to self determination.

        But “Hamas” is such a convenient excuse when the conclusion is always Palestinians not voting and not having the right to vote. There is no need or justification for you to use Hamas as an excuse for this. This is the best chance to get Hamad out: to have them voted out by all-Palestinian elections.

        The only side not wanting an election for Palestinians now is Israel, and has always been.

        Palestinians deserve better than living on the kindness of the citizens of Israel, their occupiers.

        You’re all for free Palestine? Then you need to really stand for Palestine and stop the “but Hamas!” rhetoric.

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          11 months ago

          Honestly, I think we are not that far from each other.

          Netanyahu propped up Hamas for years exactly because he knew that there wouldn’t be a unified Palestinian state as long as they are in charge. That was one of the ways his governments worked against the worked against a two-state solution.

          You a wrong in thinking that Hamas is not oppressing Gazans just as much as Israel is though. They are the reason why there hasn’t been a democratic election in Gaza since 2006.