As an American. Yes we do. You’re being hyperbolic. But I agree that America has a lot to answer for historically. My ancestors, in particular being many of those who were genocided. What’s right is right. And no one is being hypocritical here. Except perhaps you in this instance.

Short answer yes. Much longer. More complex answer. Mostly. If you’re planning on your devices being able to support hardware decoding and large resolutions/ high frame rates. Sit-top boxes and appliances are not quite there right now. I believe the newer Chromecast HD absolutely supports av1. But most of the older Chromecast including Chromecast TV do not support it directly. So it will have to be re-encoded to be streamed.

That said, the codec itself is fantastic. As an example for animated content, especially. I have some super high quality rips of the old old cartoon from the '80s of the Ghostbusters franchise. We’re talking nearly a gigabyte encoded in h264 for a 22 minute episode. At SD resolution. Upscaling them to 720p and encoding them with av1. And a constant rate factor of about 40. They’ve been coming in between 80 and 200 MB in episode depending upon how much movement there is etc. The one thing with av1 is That as it degrades it sort of smooths everything which works out perfectly for animation most of the time. It can work for live action etc. As well. But you will encounter smoothing as detail is lost. But overall, it is much more preferable to the H style codex so far

You’re not wrong.

I wouldn’t doubt it. How many Americans apologize for our system despite the long history of continuing genocide. Overthrowing governments, occupying countries, or just funding international terrorism. How about British colonizers?

I’d still say the US is better, but only just. Naomi has seen a lot of improvement with society there in her life. I don’t have the video where she went into detail handy. Or know if it is even still up. But it’s worth a watch if you haven’t seen it. Are things great there? No. But they are much better for many of them despite their oppressive government.

Unfortunately Naomi’s S.O. is uyghur. And despite all the progress minorities like her have seen in China, uyghurs haven’t. And even her mild criticism of the government over it. Brought their ire.

Yes. But people not acting in good faith don’t deserve my attention or time. No differing or opposing viewpoints are lost.

You act like not giving them attention is as bad as when they sent the people they disagreed with to the gas chamber or gulags by the millions.

Real life is the biggest echo chamber you’ll ever find. Online is one of the most diverse spaces you’ll find. That said there’s nothing to be gained by humoring fascists, ML, or groups only interested in engaging in bad faith. I say this as someone who trends social libertarian and is always up for some Marxism.

The polum.net link is misleading. The author renegs on his own sensationalist premise within the first paragraph or two. No Google did not take over or destroy XMPP. The XMPP group allowed Google outsized influence. Bending over backwards trying to procure the audience they had rather than focusing on their core product. Which didn’t kill XMPP. But it certainly didn’t help it in the long run.

Activity pub, Mastodon, and Lemmy only need to look to Linus torvald’s shepherding of the Linux kernel. Heavy hitters donate to the project yearly. Even submitting their own code. Nothing makes it in to the repository officially unless Torvalds and the others think it makes sense and doesn’t break anything else. They set the agenda, not the heavy hitters. And as long as other projects don’t fall on over big corporate groups and just follow their road maps to make the best products they can and want to make. There’s nothing meta or any of the others can do to destroy it. Just screaming uselessly into the void of no one listening to them.

The only control they could exert over mastodon is the control mastodon etc give them.

I don’t think for one moment that IBM Google or Apple are ever good even though they contribute code and funds to at least a few different projects. What I think those projects do well is their priorities and sticking to them. Ask Torvalds about bending the knee and stopping everything else to give Google or IBM a “nice to have” or breaking change that they want for themselves. They can make and submit their own patch. To be accepted or not. Torvalds will stick to the road map.

As long as activity pub, mastodon, and Lemmy stick to theirs. There’s little to nothing to fear from meta or anyone else. Users can block their instance and their users as needed. They’re welcome to screech hatefully into the void. We are not beholding to them.

Well yes, if you want to be disingenuous and not actually understand their argument.

Yes. And you’d struggle to find where someone did that. It’s so awkward and uncommon it’s truly a non issue.

Easy. Because Twitter is their biggest closest thing to a competitor. And right now under the shepherding of the petty little man child is floundering. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. But they sure can be useful.

Threads launched to the audacious soft squishy thud of a freshly fallen turd. Millions of potential users who don’t give a shit about it. On the other hand. Feddiverse users though fewer are wildly, passionate and engaged. So much so that people on a largely disconnected feddiverse system are losing their ever-loving minds about meta even coming anywhere near them.

Right now, realistically we’re nothing to reddit or Twitter. I love the feddiverse. I’m a jabber/XMPP advocate since the 1990s. But let’s be honest, we’re still a pretty small group compared to social media over all. Meta however thinks it’s worth while to form a coalition to topple the twit. That it’s worth while to them to tolerate to some extent a den of lefties, Marxist, and even murderous leninists that couldn’t be more anti them. I’m with them as long as it takes to topple musk. And then we’re coming for their user base. To Free them from their algorithms and pro-corporitist censorship. Coalitions go both ways.

How? The unhinged ranting that threads will federate with mastodon, not Lemmy. And the frothy incoherent rage that Lemmy needs to defederate from something that doesn’t currently exist and will not impact them significantly in any way once they do exist. Makes me think none of you have actually thought this through in a rational manner.

So you’re saying Facebook will lose interest in the feddiverse and leave it largely unscathed to go on to do what it has always done? Not sure why people are so doom and gloom about this. This seems like the best outcome you all would want.

You are more correct than they are but are still wrong*. A lot of the interest in XMPP died after they started pursuing standardization and of course after Google close off their servers. It never had a ground swell before or after that either though. XMPP however, still exists to this day. And has become integrated into internet of things, protocols for communications between devices and as well as more comprehensive communication services such as SIP. They literally just had their 2023 Google summer of code complete a month or so ago?

But yeah XMPP is not dead. Unfortunately, it was a surpassed by a number of other services that offered more. Evolving faster than XMPP could while looking to become standardized. It only lost relevance to most. Not it’s life. For what it’s worth since 2000 or 2001, there’s hardly been a day that I have not been logged in to an XMPP server. I’m logged into one right now.

The chaos, as is almost always the case. Is generally being caused by people’s ignorance. People are not wrong to dislike the likes of meta or even Google. But to think that they are going to be able to take over the feddiverse. Or do anything resembling what they do on their own platforms to people on other platforms. Just expresses a deeper lack of understanding.

It’s not wrong however to distrust them.

There’s no way they see it as a threat. They have millions more users. They’re just not as engaged or active perhaps as we are. But by the same token most of us are very against meta and other companies like them. There is no reasonable or logical way in which they could extend, embrace or extinguish it. Though I would be very interested to see you try to explain how. And it’s especially funny to see all the people being manipulated. Who have no idea what really went on trying to claim that Google embraced extended and extinguished XMPP. The XMPP work group just finished up their 2023 Google Summer of code for Christ’s sake. Google didn’t kill them and they’re not dead.

Yeah I’m not going to criticize anyone for not liking Google. Google’s done plenty to sour people on them. But this is just the height of ignorant flailing.

Are you familiar with the story of EEE and XMPP? If not, I’d say that’s pretty much what Google did to one of the first big federated chat networks.

No one is. Not even you. It’s not a thing beyond it being a thing uninformed people repeat.

XMPP literally just finished their 2023 GOOGLE summer of code. Go check it out. The info is on the workgroup blog.

I personally started to use jabber about 2000-2001. The bridges/transports were ultimately great idea, but flakey as hell. Being purposefully broken constantly by AOL and Microsoft. Beeper anyone ? Not something reliable enough to pull people away from those official clients. Nor a service that could gain a critical mass in its own right. Also keep in mind back then, there was no jabber.social or jabber.world equivalent. And not just because those TLD didn’t exist. There were a ton of different small servers, generally run by strangers you had no real clue about or real trust in. There was no official or semi official flagship servers, professionally run. That the average person could place any trust in. There was hope with Google chat that they would be that flagship server. They weren’t. Google “defederated” and shot themselves in the foot several times. XMPP kept on trucking. What really happened to XMPP, besides me being logged in 24/7 365 for the last 20 years. To this very minute. Was they pursued a standardization path. They now compromise 10 to 12 IETF RFC. The standardization path meant slowing the speed of development WAY down. This is what killed the BUZZ behind jabber/XMPP. Not jabber/XMPP itself. Burdened with the requirements of standardization XMPP developed much slower in comparison to Skype discord etc all.

Truth is, these days tons of people use it without even knowing. It’s in IOT an SIP systems outside it’s original scope of personal IMs.

I’ve not seen any pro meta posts. Unless this is meant in the same vein as those calling out Israel are portrayed as pro hamas wrongly. What I have seen is a lot of baseless speculation, and uninformed opinion being thrown around as fact.

We should definitely keep an eye on every capitalist or authoritarian. Because they’d gladly sacrifice our lives and privacy for a few dollars more. But anyone who thinks integrating their own servers is going to give them any more information than the servers already give anyone who asks. Has a flawed understanding of what is possible and likely.

This is all akin to the people who never used XMPP claiming Google killed it. Which is another bit of fear uncertainty and doubt being thrown out to stir people up in these threads as well. I have used XMPP consistently for the last 20+ years. I’m logged in this very minute. They just had a 2023 Google summer of code conclude.

We should watch meta like a hawk. And of course not give them special treatment. But they want to connect to us. We have the keys and the power if they don’t want to play by the rules. We don’t have to federate with them. They’re going to collect the data regardless. But the enemy of our enemy can still be useful.

You think groups that came here largely fleeing Reddit and Twitter are going to be tempted to go to threads? I doubt it very heavily. Threads is more likely to loose people to here if anything.