And yet they killed all the jews and whats before that?
No they… didn’t? I’m not even sure what you’re talking about. Zionists tend to refer to some nonexistent Arab genocide of all inhabitants of Palestine so they can conveniently claim that the people currently living there “stole” it; is that what you mean?
It is, its idiotic and they stole the land as well.
I know you and your ilk don’t care about that, but no they didn’t. The Palestinians of today are the same Palestinians of 2000 years ago. Palestine wasn’t only Jews.
I see. Yeah that makes sense.
Kinda surprising Palestine isn’t one of them.
Palestinian foreign aid is a stopgap for Palestinians not being allowed to have their own country with a real economy. After defending Israel on the international (and domestic, seeing as they’ve been arresting protesters left and right) stage it’s the least they could do to give Palestinians something to eat since they’re the ones denying them the right to feed themselves.
The developing world has the problem of being… well, developing though. And the dictatorships.
Bruh at least ask for a source before claiming it’s made up.
You’re defending the democracy of a country where the word “facebook detainee” can be accurately used. Think about that.
A “democracy” flashbacks to hundreds of people being arrested for criticizing Israel after Oct 7.
And? Collective punishment is a warcrime.
You should check before you copy paste, so lemme just:
Everything before 1949: The idea that Israel had a right to Palestinian land is itself wrong. A two-state solution is the most realistic solution now, but before the war it should’ve been one state encompassing all of Palestine. A two-state solution necessarily meant that a number of Palestinians would be condemned to expulsion or a life of apartheid (which both happened and are happening in post-war Israel). And anyway this was more than 70 years ago; almost nobody who remembers that is alive today.
The UN resolutions are things Israel objects to. How do these even belong on a list of peace offers from Israel when Israel actively rejects them (particularly the 1949, since it calls for the right of return of Palestinian refugees).
The 1978 offer from Sadat was Yasser Arafat’s greatest mistake and part of what led Palestine to the current situation, no argument there, but calling it an Israeli offer is disingenuous at best and misinformation at worst.
1994: Bruh negotiations were progressing until Rabin got fucking assassinated by a Zionist terrorist, at a time where the Israeli right was actively calling for his assassination. How you (or well, the guy who wrote this) managed to blame this on Palestine is beyond me.
2000 and 2001 (they’re the same thing): The then-Israeli foreign affairs minister stated he wouldn’t have accepted the offer if he were in Arafat’s place. It was that bad.
The Olmert offer was mostly behind closed doors so nobody actually knows what was going on (both sides blame each others for not following up on negotiations), but from what we do know the offer included keeping an unacceptably large part of the West Bank (about 10% by the Palestinian calculation).
Are you seriously buying Netenyahu wanting peace? The guy who supports settlements and goes on and on about how a Palestinian state must not be allowed to exist? LMFAO. Give me an example of one of those offers, if you will.
2014: The American envoy stated that the blame for the failure of the negotiations (not an offer, since Israel didn’t actually offer anything) lied squarely on Israel, and specifically Netenyahu. That’s how uncooperative Israel was.
And about Palestinian offers: How do you expect Palestinians to offer peace? “We want peace with these terms” “No”. It’s Israel who holds all the power; they’re the only ones who can offer peace.
So with that, if anyone was actually buying this shit, this is why this is complete and utter nonsense.
Rebelling against a blockade by slaughtering civilians is still awful abd terribly misguided though.
Yeah, true enough, but oppression breeds extremism and Gazans (and West Bankers) have seen a lot of oppression. It’s not necessarily rational, but yeah, when your already horrible life is destroyed because an Israeli airstrike bombed your house and killed your family, most people will be out for blood. If Palestinians get freedom, Hamas and similar organizations will probably be reduced to fringe organizations instead of resistance movements with large amounts of public support. We’ve seen it in the Troubles.
For now. There’s no way they won’t give it the West Bank treatment. Remember that these are the same people who had to be removed at gunpoint from Gaza in 2005.
They don’t want to rule it after the war.
They are military occupying it, though, and are considering doing more than that.
Yes, very much yes. Hamas has signed permanent ceasefires before and followed them until it became clear Israel had no intention of upholding its end of the deal. Basically Hamas is currently rebelling against the blockade. Lift that and the whole Gaza side ends. Of course they’ll just ramp up their activities in the West Bank instead because those people are also being genocided, so something needs to be done there too.
The genie is basically hitting you and begging to be put back in the bottle.
Yeah that makes sense.
I’m not handwaving it; more saying that it seems like everyone in the comments is acting like they wanna kill all non-Muslims or something, with stuff like “this is what happens when you invite Muslims into your country” and shit.
Okay so question: What do y’all think a caliphate is? While it’s not something I’d expect most Europeans to support given the lack of separation of church and state and all that, “caliphate” is (to simplify) a state ruled by the laws of Islam, which while again aren’t things most Europeans support (the lack of LGBT rights coming to mind) it’s not like these people are trying to recreate ISIS.
Well given that there were 700000 Arabs who had to flee out of fear of getting murdered (or because they were directly ordered to flee by the IDF’s predecessors), I’d say they were pretty successful.
As someone from a third world country living in a first world country, yeah the difference is still there and depending on where you are in the third world, it’s not decreasing.
It’s actually very hard to override people’s votes. Countries like this usually take unused votes and put them in the government’s candidate AFAIK. There’s nothing they can do if he actually makes it on the ballot and, say, all of Russia votes for him. Which is why anyone with a risk of something like that happening is executed by suicide.