Rabbithole

I can imagine some alpha-cunt Tate-esque grifter selling courses on how to “Just Shout at People” like it’s some sort of magic spell that mysteriously makes everything that you want happen.

Selling it like it’s the hidden secret sauce to the universe or whatever, rather than just being a dick to everyone.

Would the community even be any worse, I wonder? :)

Tbf the Venn diagram of that is a circle within a circle, so…

I’m not sure that they ever did.

The turning point for me when I really got a concrete realisation about people absolutely not giving a shit about this was when Snowden came out and I saw the majority of people just go “Eh, that’s pretty fucked, whatever”, and then immediately jump straight back into scrolling facebook all day long.

I realised then that there probably wasn’t any point expecting anything from them. I don’t have much sympathy left for people in this regard anymore.

Most people legitimately don’t give a shit about this issue. I think that they really should, but they absolutely don’t for the most part.

Would make it a little like work email addresses too.

Say, if NYT had their own instance and disabled open sign-ups for user accounts, you could be certain that any account posting from that instance is a legit NYT account.

This right here.

It’s not about disliking some community that someone personally disagrees with for whatever reason, it’s about trying to not have the entire system taken down by a vastly powerful corporate entity with an almost endless track record of being consistently malignant.

Yeah but in this particular case it really needs to happen at the instance level rather then the user level, and preferably all instances at that. It’s about mitigating the damage that Meta/Facebook are going to do (to the entire fediverse as a system) more than it is about not seeing shitty low-effort racism or whatever they’ll have there.

If I could actually trust Meta to be benign then I’d maybe agree with you about just blocking their shit as a user, but there’s just no chance of believing that about them.

What we should be doing is de-federating them en-mass.

Nothing good will come from having Facebook/Meta involved here.