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  • You have the most freshwater resources in the world and the American west needs it (not defending belligerence!). I’d imagine Russia has decent fresh water but I’m sure you have something they don’t. Whether it be strategic location (with a warming world, more shipping routes as well) or simply more resources…

    I’m not sure growing Canada bigger via immigration was the best move for you (at least how it turned out with neoliberal Trudeau). As I understand it your real estate market got fucked because you couldn’t build fast enough for the influx breeding resentment in non immigrant Canadians against newcomers. That’s ripe for exploitation of social division in the future…

    Now growing Canada by absorbing part of the US… that might be a good move. We’re getting increasingly fed up with the situation and a dissolution of the union looks possible in a way it never did before.


  • Have you ever thought as a Canadian that you’re being put in some weird tug of war between Russia and the US over your natural resources? Something real weird is going on here.

    Just remember - most Americans especially the northern states that you trade the most with don’t want this and we have long been held hostage by a government that seems to be completely couped by the far right since 2000, starting with bush’s stolen election and the packing of the federal courts, overturning of citizens United, let it happen 9/11, fraudulent forever war on terror, and then of course what it’s led to with the multiple trump terms and the coup of the SCOTUS. We don’t have a legitimate government and the democrats are complicit as they’re also corporate captured and pro imperialist.

    I think if things start to get bad Canada should work directly with friendly US states and make us an offer we can’t refuse, seceding from the US and joining Canada. Most of us would be happy to stop subsidizing the red states that drag us down in exchange for healthcare.


  • *most of the US. My state (vermont), not so much. Trump support is fairly low across the board.

    Re foreign interference, you are referring to now. and you’re not wrong! But I’m referring to a future where a hot war happens. Who will intervene? Who will take advantage of the situation? We have no idea and I don’t even think it’s possible to speculate. America has so many enemies (for good reason) the list could be endless. As for Canada, you’re full of natural resources, who knows who might find that appealing while you’re in a war with the US. All hell breaks loose. I’m a strategy person, I like thinking these things through, the crazy what ifs. I can’t even imagine what will happen if it gets to that point.

    As for canadas fighting abilities, give yourselves some credit. Not just hockey, y’all kicked so much ass in WW1 we needed to have the Geneva convention. Most Americans think they’re so exceptional that no one can beat them. But the truth is we haven’t won a war since ww2 despite spending all of our money on war. Should it come to it I believe Canada would give america a run for it’s money.

    I hope it doesn’t come to it. I wish more Luigi’s would spring up and take the technofascists and their puppets in government out. But I don’t have high hopes and I believe the future is looking extremely bleak.

    And that’s ignoring climate change. Add that in, permafrost melting and another pandemic springing up out of it, we’re so fucked. The global elites know and they have no country. The world is theirs for the taking and that’s exactly what they’re doing.


  • Yeah. It would be a very risky big leap, but I think some blue states would be interested. Vermont went overwhelmingly for Harris, and we have an independent streak and history of our own. But other blue states would be harder - California and New York seem bright blue but they aren’t - the cities are and the rural areas are not. Vermont receives more federal tax money than we pay, not as much as the red welfare states but a considerable amount. I think New England as a whole would be interested but New Hampshire would be a wildcard. It could inflame a neighbor against neighbor civil war… people stupidly think a second civil war would have clear battle lines like the first. No way.

    The biggest risk besides outright hot war would be foreign interference outside of Canada and the US. The US has made a ton of enemies with our foreign policy, and with us in obvious disunion they could start arming sides like we have done abroad. Or straight up invade. Or go after their own geopolitical aims closer to home (which I care less about, I’m tired of being the worlds police that few ever asked for).

    One of the benefits is the US government hasn’t outright won a war since ww2 and the Canadians are formidable fighters in their own right. But a hot war should be avoided at all costs, it would be brutal. Many millions would die, if not in outright war in disease and starvation.

    And what about the billionaires? Somebody needs to render them useless in the process. Otherwise they’ll just reign the rubble.




  • I’m not sure I’m following you on the constitutional convention. Do Canadians have their own version of that? In America it will never happen, we wouldn’t be able to get whatever the legal majority (2/3?) is to do anything. I’m kind of hoping that most Americans are so dumb they don’t even know we’re a state, and we’re so small and economically unimportant that if we left they wouldn’t even notice.

    I’ve legit been on the phone with some customer service rep from some other part of the country and they asked me if vermont was a country and where in the world it is. I mean we were… before we became the 14th state.