I don’t see how that is relevant.

You might want to reconsider the iamverysmart routine since you couldn’t even spell copyright correctly one comment ago, yet I assume you expect me to believe you have some knowledge of the topic.

However, your point is my point. There was no risk of a lawsuit; they’d just get a takedown notice.

Though, now that I scroll up, what does this have to do with whether or not defederation is sometimes warranted? Did I get mixed up, or did you?

And due to the nature of IP enforcement, once an object has been created that the copywrite holders could find objective, takedown enforcement becomes impossible when an object is more or less instantly shared across a hundred thousand instances.

This is not correct.

Copyright (not “copywrite”, btw) law is batshit insane, but somehow people believe it to be even worse than it is.

Your browser makes copies of every image you see, but this doesn’t violate copyright law because it’s automatic and necessary for the browser to function. Does that sound familiar?

Also, for like 2 decades the standard action is just a takedown request that threatens legal action if ignored.

And to be clear, the admins had no actionable reason to block the piracy communities. They did it preemptively.

I apologize; I don’t know what you mean in relation to what I said. Do you mind elaborating?

I promise it is true. I’ve been doing it for months.

You haven’t been blocking instances with Lemmy because that option doesn’t yet exist.

Speak for yourself. Doesn’t harm me.

What do you mean? Are you saying that because you aren’t affected that no one can be?

I thought we were discussing defederation. You cannot block entire instances on lemmy, that I know of.

Blocking a community does not block the users of the instance. The type of people that would naturally gravitate to, for example, a far right instance of lemmy.

I think one of us doesn’t understand federation-- and to be clear, it might be me.

I don’t need anyone choosing for me what I should and should not see. I can (and do) do that myself, thank you.

I see this a lot, and first off, it’s not true at the instance level, for lemmy-- unless there’s a new option I didn’t see. Second, having to block someone that suggests you should die for your skin color, after reading the comment, is not without harm. There is value in preventing the speech from being seen at all, versus blocking people after the fact.

It’s obviously a generalization, but generally the people who say “just block them” are also people that haven’t lived with systemic bigotry directed at them for their entire lives.

And for the record, I don’t think piracy falls into this category of speech.

It’s a problem of scale. If you don’t defederate from a racist-focused instance (for example; hypothetically speaking), then you need to devote resources to moderating those users who make racist comments, as allowed by their instance, but directed at your users. Sure, you could do this, but it’s probably smarter to just defederate and save the resources for other uses. And no moderation team is going to be flawless, so racism will still creep in and be missed by the mod team.

It might be a different story if users are given the tools to block entire instances (like kbin has) but even then I think the ROI would be low.

I know reading comprehension isn’t much valued in some political circles, but I didn’t say what you think I said, so I’m not sure you really mean “agreed”.

Some moderation is required because an honest dialog cannot happen if all parties don’t feel safe. This is not the same as “no moderation”, but it’s also not the same as what you pretended I said, which is “heavy moderation”. I don’t understand why you think this discussion in any way translates to a government, but generally speaking, the US government has less ability to “censor” than a non-government entity.

And, as I already alluded to, the result of lax moderation is bigotry and hate, every time. If I had to pick between heavy moderation or voat, and to be clear, I don’t have to make that choice because there is nuance allowed, then I’d pick heavy moderation over a site infested with redhats and the like.

An instance with no defederation policy is going to end up exactly like an instance with no moderation policy. It’s going to become Voat or whatever the latest far-right website is these days.

You might be better served to seek out an instance with a transparent defederation policy, and admins that use it as a tool of last resort, instead of first resort. I was, perhaps mistakenly, under the impression that lemmy.world fit that bill, but maybe not so much.

I get that, but what images would be of concern in a piracy-focused community?

I truly don’t mean to be dense, but I don’t follow. We’re talking about piracy, right? What images are of concern there, and why does the first step to resolving it have to be blocking instead of communication?

Legal ramifications in what way? And do we know that there was a dialog about this with the community mods? The one I looked at has rules against directly linking to infringing content, so it seem-- at least from where I’m sitting-- that blocking would not be an appropriate first step, instead opening a dialog with the mods/admins to moderate any offending content.

And, in case it needs saying-- US copyright law is not global copyright law, and discussing copyright infringement is not illegal.

Though, more to the point, this kind of poor communication-- if not the actions themselves-- makes me wonder if I should move to a new instance. I don’t want to, but I also don’t want admins making decisions without communicating them to the userbase, whether I personally agree with the decision or not. It certainly doesn’t give the impression of transparency.

Connect has this option like 3/4 the way down the settings, called (Experimental) Horizontal swipe for next post. Seems default off.

Just like on reddit, the escape character is a \. You can easily remember this by thinking of all the shrug emoticons that were missing their arm, like so: ¯_(ツ)_/¯ because the backslash wasn’t itself escaped.

So, if you want to type a character that normally results in formatting, precede it with a blackslash.

\*checks notes* results in *checks notes* instead of checks notes.

Edit: This comment was confusing to format. haha

It’s interesting you have this opinion; I figured this would be the biggest draw for corporations-- they’re no longer beholden to some third party for their media presence-- it’s all hosted and controlled by themselves;.

In email terms, it’s the difference between tide@gmail.com and tide@tide.com.

Edit: I don’t have any idea why I went with tide, so if you find yourself wondering why I did that, get in line. haha

That’s not an accurate summary.

Everyone on the fediverse knows about EEE at this point; it’s mentioned in every other post haha

The dev behind Mastodon doesn’t seem concerned. Why are you?