Not to mention it is hard to do that with music and keep up with thousands of new tracks and artists.

Get a new wife?

No individual is more powerful than the state. That’s sort of the point of the state. Therefore, people who value freedom, like myself, are absolutely concerned with the decisions of the state and about the consequences of living a life out-of-line with the powers that be.

To use a hyperbolic example (and I fully acknowledge that is is hyperbolic, but I want to demonstrate a point), you were free to denounce Stalin and go to the Gulag. Nobody sewed up your mouth and prevented you from doing so. As you would aptly say, there are consequences.

No, you were not required to. But you were also excluded from a lot of life if you didn’t. And a lot of people were foaming at the mouth and very much desirous of an outright requirement.

I think

1. Most people are actually mostly reasonable most of the time because they don’t want to die or be seriously injured
2. Generally then, your scenario is unrealistic
3. If it were true, that most people were just dying to get brain damage in car accidents we could probably deal with it in a non-authoritarian way

Consider the billions per month alcohol and tobacco cost public health systems. We still let people do these things. Frankly I’d very much be in favor of taxing smokers more if they wanted to use the public health system.

The reality is, you just like a more controlling society as I like a more free one.

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You know what, while I disagree, your response is well written and actually well taken.

What messed with yours?

That’s the case with a vaccine to any contagious disease. Life has trade offs. I prever not to live under an authoritarian state. I don’t think hive-minded harm avoidance is the be all and end all of existence.

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Of course I do. Your body creates antibodies to viral proteins or particles and develops memory to them. In this case the antigens are created by your own body via injected mRNA enclosed in lipids, not an injected weakened or dead viruses.

You will note I was making a point about one aspect of the US health system. Not all of it.

Very true. I have been sobbing for hours

Neither did I. You were the guys who dogpiled on me.

Cool dude. You sure owned me.

That might have happened in a few cases. I don’t deny there was a real pandemic and vulnerable people were dying.

A few years ago corpses were rotting in a basement of Universidad Autónoma becauae too many people donated their bodies to science. What’s your point?

Neurotic authoritarian.

They did but it was an abridged version shall we say. Which is fine. It was an emergency and the law foresees this.

But the cultural shift towards harm avoidance at all costs and general authoritarianism (as clearly on display here on this site) led governments the world over to, use heavy handed tactics, shall we say, to get people to take it.

I am absolutely not against the vaccines. I got three doses of Pfizer. But I am profoundly against the heavy handed tactics used in deploying them.

I believe people should have a right to weigh these risks for themselves.

They have to prove it’s safe, not vice versa.

Typical leftist authoritarianism. Classic.