Centrist, progressive, radical optimist. Geophysicist, R&D, Planetary Scientist and general nerd in Winnipeg, Canada.

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  • The Feds don’t help much for northern mining communities either. The north just gets shafted in general. Short term planning.

    It used to be that, when a major deposit was discovered, a community was established there to support the mine. We have a long list of northern communities established this way: Sudbury, Yellowknife, Labrador City, Thompson… I could list dozens of northern centres that were kicked off due to a mine. Yellowknife is a great example of the community surviving mine shutdown and continuing onwards.

    But new mining communities don’t get established anymore – not since at least the 60s. Now it’s fly-in, fly-out, or similar rotations. No community gets established. No economic growth happens in the remoter regions. This affects more than just the mines – but also native communities – as it prolongs and reinforces economic isolation.

    Actually, read into Thompson, MB. It’s possibly the last major mining community to be established in Canada. There was initially a work camp on site, but the workers had a strike and demanded that they could live with their families, and school and such be built. Thompson popped up almost overnight as a real community. That just doesn’t happen anymore. Sucks for miners. Sucks for economic development in the north. Sucks for carbon footprint.


  • I did some work in a community in NWT called “Fort Good Hope”. We hired some locals for labour and got to know them fairly well. After talking with them, we learned that they were sending their kids to Edmonton for school because there was no future for them in town (besides delinquency, arson, bootlegging alcohol, etc.). There was so little hope in the town that we started calling it Fort No Hope.

    One of our labourers was particularly reflective, noting that sending his kids south to get educated was effectively the same intent as the residential schools. The difference being that he was their parent and not the government, and it wasn’t to a religious institution. Given the kids we saw running around outside at 4am banging on windows (lots of sunlight in summer that far north), it seemed like a wise idea.



  • You’re getting downvoted by the ACAB brigade. But you’re absolutely right. If there is zero enforcement of the Rule of Law, then the Rule of Law doesn’t exist. Granted cops are only a portion of that mechanism (legal system and legislators and general societal acceptance of these institutions also required.)

    You could run an experiment – remove all cops from Calgary, but keep cops in Edmonton. The crime rate might be similar to background in the first year, but in the third year? Tenth year? I’d suspect that suddenly people would be clamouring for the police to enforce laws in Calgary again.

    (I picked those cities because there was a remarkable experiment performed at one point where Calgary stopped fluorinating their water supply, while Edmonton continued. The cavity rates diverged rapidly until political pressure returned fluorination.)

    Anyway, a background level of policing is required for Peace, Order, and Good Governance. Not zero police. Not a police state either.