I read a Twitter post of hers a few years ago where she was extremely apologetic towards China, saying that Americans listened to a lot of propaganda and so on. Now I’m starting to wonder if it was really her who made that twitter post.

New domain name proposal:

queer.asf.uk 🤭

It’s just another Mastodon-compatible server where you can log in.

Mastodon, like Lemmy, is a federated network, meaning the more servers there are, the better things are for everyone. Huge servers with millions of users are harder to maintain, and moderation does not scale. There’s more noise, abuse is harder to spot, and harassment is harder to punish. Having many small servers is a better approach.

On the other hand, new servers might be unstable: the admin needs to both maintain the server and moderate the community, and there have been cases of admins doing crappy jobs at either. Servers are born and die regularly on Mastodon; you might want to see how things go before opening an account there.

It’s the nazi bar analogy. The moment you allow nazis, they invited that’s friends and then you can’t kick them out because they can cause big trouble. The solution is not to allow nazis in the first place.

And the issue with the “99% of people” argument is, it doesn’t matter what percentage of the population are decent people. If they’re too many, the network effect takes place and the platform becomes too big to fail.

Do you know how many people are dictators in dictatorships? One. The leader. The rest are subjects. But that single leader is enough to make everyone’s lives shitty.

So it doesn’t matter what percentage of Threads/Facebook users are nazis; by being there they support the nazis they can’t kick out.

The decentralized fediverse model isn’t perfect, but defederation has worked so far at keeping nazis at bay. They have their little corner where they can talk all the racist shit they want, but they can’t harm users of instances that have blocked them.

The real question is how much money Zuck plans to invest in moderating hate speech. I can’t be sure how much, but based on the precedents, I can say it’s a pretty small figure. That IS a problem.

Just wait until you hear about the number of Linux distros 😛

Wrong. degeneration might be the ONLY way to prevent Faceboom from pulling an EEE.

You just don’t invite a vampire into your house. Consider the nazi bar analogy.

Finally someone gets it!

Just, for the love of god, make sure to make it opt-in. Don’t scan people’s posts without their consent.

Also, if you’re going with this, make sure to respect people’s requests for removal, e.g. deleting their posts from the engine when they delete them from their instances. Otherwise you’d get in trouble with the EU regarding GDPR…

The very nature of the fediverse makes fragmentation part of it. Since it’s not centralized, control is distributed to the different instance admins. It’s only natural that people with different opinions will want to split from each other, and that’s without taking into account the levels of toxicity allowed by different moderators.

Is an instance allowing racists to thrive in there? Of course it will be blocked by leftists, since banning is a concept that no longer applies.

Let me repeat for clarity: You CANNOT ban someone from the fediverse, you can ONLY defederate from them.

And don’t tell me it’s that much different from reddit, I’ve seen political subs denying access to people simply based on what other subreddits they’re subscribed to.

Would you rather have a single hierarchical “network” where an asshole dictator decides who is and who isn’t allowed to post? Of course not, otherwise you wouldn’t be here.

Federation implies defederating instances you’re not comfortable with.

And that’s perfectly fine, because safety comes first.

My freedom of association necessarily implies that I’m free NOT to associate with people I don’t like, and my insurance admin should be able to make sure I’m free from harassment by those same people.

Want to solve this issue? Solve human nature first.

If that were the only argument I might consider your point, but there’s also the point of troll farms. You can easily identify a third party troll farm fedi instance, but Zuckerberg will keep them anonymous as long as they keep paying him. Are you not aware of the amount of shills and trolls we got on reddit advocating for:

• Russia
• Conservative republicans
• Conspiracy theories
• Corporations such as Monsanto

I’m not fucking kidding, if you paid ANY attention to what happened to Reddit in the years after Spez took control, you’d realize that amplifying voices funded by corporate or foreign government money is bad for fucking everyone.

Facebook has shown, time after time, that they don’t give a shit about actual free speech, democracy, human rights or even complying with the law.

Why do you keep treating them as if they were only a social network? Have you been living under a fucking rock?

If you like corporate social networks so much, go back to reddit.

It’s the same network.

The difference between a conspiracy theory and an actual conspiracy is evidence.

Remind me again why Zuck was called to testify before Congress?

Actually that was a rhetorical question. But here is a video you all need to watch.

https://youtu.be/G272R50v6ww

Noe consider how the number will increase AFTER they start federating!

You don’t seem to understand the issue. Facebook IS the bad actor. They’ll allow racists, nazis and all kinds of assholes just as long as they get their sweet advertising money.

Instance admins moderate according to community rules. Zuck moderates according to what’s most profitable.

To put it another way, imagine reddit started federating with Lemmy, and suddenly all the users from TheDonald started harassing our political forums. If that sounds bad, remember how many fake accounts ran by shills and foreign states (read: Russia) appeated on Facebook between 2014 and 2017.

If you don’t give a shit abount Facebook enabling genocide, amplifying white supremacism or, you know, selling milluons of users’ private data to the Kremlin, then sure, why not.

This isn’t about elitism, this is about a known bad actor threatening to harvest our conversations without our fucking permission, or using Microsoft’s tactic of “embrace and extend” to destroy the competition.

Anyone can implement ActivityPub. We have no problem with that. Facebook is a corporation whose business strategy has consistently been about harvesting users’ data and selling it to political advertisers.

Only if they pay for their own instance.

Don’t think this is a strange phenomenon or that it’s permanent. I’ve seen Mastodon (and Pleroma and Misskey etc) instances get born and die regularly. This is because it’s easy to set up an instance but it’s also easy to fall in an economic problem or just give up.

Not everyone is ready to set up their own instance; it requires dedication and resources.

And then they started hosting transphobic content and refused to follow their own instance’s rules, so almost all other instances defederated.

The difference between Lemmy and Mastodon, is that the former is topic centric. There are subreddits and each post is topic specific. Mastodon is people centric. You’re not on Mastodon to see what’s happening around the world or what interests you, you’re on Mastodon to see what your friends are up to. It’s the difference between going to the public plaza and going to an expo.