Canada cannot win a trade war with the US. When we are on our knees he’s going to ask for Yukon, nwt and nunavut. Saying basically nobody lives there and we don’t need it. He can easily buy out northern Canadians by offering lots of money or citizenship and the other 39 million Canadians will reluctantly agree it’s the best compromise.
He knows climate change is real and it makes the north more and more viable every day due to its resources and shipping route.
Another obvious hint at this was traitor Danielle Smith suggesting US military bases in the north just last week.
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Cuba has an entire embargo and they didn’t capitulate. There’s not a snowball’s chance in hell of Canada selling our North.
And byw our population is 41m.
I vote we put the United States on a time out.
Every night, we turn off their power for half an hour until they smarten up. And increase the time if they continue to act like toddlers.
And I want Trudeau to announce it exactly like that. “We are putting you under a time out every night because if you’re president wants to act like an unruly toddler, he’ll be treated like one.”
Don’t do it at night. Do it at 8AM and stop at 5PM.
Turning off power at night hurts the common person. Turning off power during the day shuts down the businesses that overwhelmingly stumped for Trump to get a slightly lower tax rate.
Canada alone might not win a trade war against the US. Good thing for us that Trump is on a streak for pissing off US allies. I really don’t care how bad Trump tries to make things in Canada, they are not going to get worse than they currently are in the states. Do you really think millions of Canadians would prefer school shootings to 25% tariffs? Will millions of Canadians trade in their health care and human rights for cheap iPhones? US can go fuck itself. Trump can go fuck his own face. I will die before I become a fucking American.
Canada has the best weapon of all: Time. Things might get rough, but we all know that Trump has been getting old. Even if it takes longer than we hope, our economy will adapt to new markets, because it is what economies do.
Just look at what Ukraine has been surviving through for crying out loud. We have it way easier in comparison.
Canada will outlive Trump.
Trump wants us to kiss the ring, and his puppeteers want to break NATO. That’s all that’s going on here. There’s no grand plan. There’s just “satisfy the narcissist’s ego” and “destroy the military alliance threatening Russia”.
Y’all need to stop watching those Fallout lore videos bro.
People fight much harder when they have a clear cause and clear enemy.
Right now Trump is giving us one: we’re fighting for Canada, our home and native land. We’re fighting for ourselves, our neighbours, our friends, our families. We’re fighting for our way of life, our healthcare, we fight for everything.
The US is fighting for nothing. Even MAGA conservatives don’t know what Trump is doing. Sun Tzu teaches that is the weakest position to fight from. The US people will falter before a unified and galvanized Canadian front will. Our backs are against the wall and the only option is to fight.
My family came from a small northern Ontario mining community. Times were always hard there but people looked after each other. My grandma grew her own food to stretch their budget. She took in boarders who needed a place to stay and shared what she had. They made do with little and everyone supported each other — that is the Canadian spirit that makes this country great.
Now it’s our turn. I’m supporting whatever our government decides, I want us to fight back tooth and nail. I want to support all the Canadians who are going out of work, and the Canadian businesses that are going to struggle, I’ll pay more taxes to support them, whatever is needed. I’m not buying American products wherever possible, local first always and forever after this. Anything but American. I’m increasing donations to my food bank. I need to start volunteering too.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
I’m starting to wean myself off all US services and subscriptions, and avoid US products wherever possible. I’d encourage other Canadians to do the same and buy Canadian wherever you can.
Trump loves to make bombastic threats, to cause pre-emptive capitulation like in the way newspapers and billionaires did.
There is no way Trump will have the bandwidth to respond to Canada’s defensive action amidst the rest of the chaos he is causing in government and other fights he decides to pick throughout the week. He might get tired of bullying Canada and move on in a few weeks, might not.
I imagine many Canadians who feel betrayed by our longstanding ally, will defend our sovereignty with whatever it takes. Americans will be unfocused and hampered by their own divisions and internal governmental dysfunction, and no one wants a trade war or real war anyway.
There are a few of causes for hope.
First, Trump has surrounded himself with loyalists and sycophants, not competence. On the downside, this is how Putin ended up on year 3 of a 3-day “special military operation” in Ukraine. Trump is going to make incredibly stupid mistakes not just because he’s stupid, but everyone he has surrounded himself with will be telling him how wonderful and clever he is. On the other hand, this is a good way to get clobbered by reality.
Canada and Mexico have responded with targeted tariffs and are also planning ahead to next steps. Heck, Canada just finalized a trade deal with Ecuador. Sure it’s not going to replace the US, but it shows many competent people are out there working for Canada. Meanwhile the US government apparatus is going to be gutted of competent people.
Second, Canada does export a lot of raw materials, which should be easier to shift to other markets. Also things like hydo power and oil can probably absorb a fairly high increase in cost without being substantially effected. Hydro power as an example, can easily eat a 10% increase and still be the cheapest source of electricity. Canada could probably slap export tariffs on oil, hydro electricity, and potash and the US will just have to eat it.
Finally, Trump will probably continue tariffing the EU and other countries as well, further triggering retaliatory tariffs. This means Bosch, Samsung and LG will need to make more dishwashers to replace the Whirlpool and Maytag dishwashers that aren’t going to be sold outside the US (as an example). It’s going to suck, but Canada already has CETA and CPTPP to build on, and should be deepening CANZUK ties. The world is bigger than the US, and the US looks set to isolate themselves from everyone. Being on the outside in that case is better.
no one wins trade wars, but the kid who never stands up for himself always loses and for a long time
If you think the US insurgancy would be bad if they were invaded; you’ve no idea of Canada’s war record.
The US hasn’t won a war in a long time, my bet is on Canada by a landslide.
My bet is on Trump triggering a civil war before he ever gets to the point of invading Canada, Panama, or Denmark.
He may have replaced the political brass with criminals, but it’ll take years to hollow out the military with sycophants.
Something something Geneva Checklist
Don’t you guys basically power a bunch of northern us states, and your crude is the biggest % of their oil.
Slap big enough export tariffs on both that the yanks have to think if they can afford it before turning on the lights and their petrol is more expensive than it is in Europe.
Yup, seeing that Trudeau was unable to talk with trump for 2 weeks, it really shows that trump does not give a shit. It’s like when he said “I want Panama’s canal” and “I want Greenland”, it’s not a choice, nor a question, it’s a fact, and he said he will take them by force with the army. Seeing what he did with Canada/Mexico, you can be sure that he will invades Panama and Denmark.
The only way to resist is a full world embargo on USA.
I’ve been saying this for over a year now. IT IS GOING TO GET HOT AND THE UNITED STATES WILL NEED NEW LAND. IT WILL INVADE CANADA
We can pivot and re-orient our strategies. It’ll hurt short term but we’ll make it. We don’t have to win if we just decide to play a different game.
Seeing that after years of sanctions, Russia is still here and not as weak as we thought, I guess Canada will survive.
He knows climate change is real
lol
