• PunnyName@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    For a guy who said he wasn’t gonna go to war, he sure as fuck sounds like a guy getting ready to go to war.

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      Since the major sources of fentanyl brought into the USA are from Mexico and South America, and originate in China I get the feeling he will either invade the south or just use this as an excuse to grab more power without actually mobilizing. He sure as fuck doesn’t have the balls to deal with daddy China, he praises the shit of out Xi.

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    13 days ago

    If you want peace, prepare for war.

    I’m not being facetious and I’m not joking, and I don’t think he is either.

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    Here comes the “special military operation”, but it’s not a declaration of war so he doesn’t need congressional approval.

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    Soooo can we declare Purdue Pharmaceutical and the Sackler family terrorists organization under that rhetoric? Asking for a friendly nation.

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      Nope only applies to illicit fentanyl. Same reason coca cola is the nation’s only legal supplier of cocaine.

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    I agree that this is just so he has reason to continue his attacks, I am guessing it will be aimed at Mexico but Canada needs to be ready.

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    Wasn’t there a bust of like 1000 lbs of fentanyl crossing the border from the US into Canada recently?

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      The only resistance that could stand a chance against the US army would be organized by the Canadian government, in which case they’d provide you with the weapon.

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        Depends on the nature of the conflict, Unless the US is willing to completely level most of Canada and much of its own northern states you’ve pretty much got Afghanistan 2.0 only now the the villagers the terrorists blend into are US citizens.

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        I suspect there will be a sharp divide of the military if they were ordered to deploy within the US. And with that, probably some military hardware.

        There will be insurgent forces throughout all 50 states. And probably disconnected. It will be like hydra. A lack of organization across the entire country could be a benefit as the military would have so many groups to deal with.

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      Why? To give it liberals wneh carney proceeds with “buyback”?

      Get a drone instead and learn to operate it

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    He’s so far outside the box predictions don’t work anymore. But food for thought; Americans associate drugs with Mexico far more than any other country. So this would be one hell of a head whip for the general public. Americans also still consider Canada one of our closest friends on the global stage. Many families in the North span the border. For that fact alone there’s a very good chance that if he attacks Canada we’d shut this country down with protests and strikes.

    On a rational predictable level he’s already declared cartels to be terrorists and Venezuela to be a terrorist state. This is very likely another tool to pressure the Mexican government.

    That said, I wouldn’t trust us right now. We’re like that friend who took too much cocaine and is hiding in the closet with a gun. Unpredictable and dangerous.

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      Speaking for myself, someone with family and friends in the US, I don’t trust you one bit right now - your current government is an enemy to Canada, period.

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        Yeah, I’m not really sure Americans would shut down their country at this point. For one thing, they seem incapable of protesting. More importantly though, Republicans seem fully sold on an invasion and even some Democrats seem rather excited to use us to “move their politics left” (as if we’d get the right to vote)

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      Your optimism as to how the American people would react is cute, but likely not realistic. There’s a huge chunk of Americans who voted for this, there’s another huge chunk that didn’t care to even bother voting. The thought that someone who couldn’t be arsed to spend an hour popping in to vote, would get organized and take up arms – especially on behalf of other people / principles / morals – is a bit of a stretch.

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        Here’s the thing. The way the American highway system works is it goes from city to city. And millions of people in the northern cities voted against him. We don’t need to shut down the roads in the rural red areas. His Canadian state idea also wasn’t a part of his campaign and many Americans still think it’s nothing more than him being his normal blathering self. So we aren’t seeing true opposition get captured in polling yet.

        I agree that he’s dangerous. And I don’t know what we could do to stop him but I am absolutely sure the military would suffer high rates of desertion compared to orders to invade Panama, Mexico, or Venezuela. I am also sure that Congress would not use the war powers act to stop him in any invasion, nor would he listen to them if they did. So whatever has to happen is up to the people, and there are at least 80 million pissed off Americans right now. You’re right that I can’t guarantee anything on their behalf. I can only offer an inside perspective and my apologies.

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    Fentanyl is the preferred opiate in hospitals. Cheaper per dose. US used to be able to “influence” Afghanistan to help its drug trade profits. Fentanyl is cheap because it doesn’t need controlled plants in addition to potency.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/10/05/918279481/some-health-workers-suffering-from-addiction-steal-drugs-meant-for-patients

    Hard to get an exact number for hospital theft amount of fentanyl, but

    3,600 cases of alleged drug theft at healthcare facilities over the last five years, including 280 cases so far in 2020.

    111,000 instances here where the folks that were reviewing [drug inventories] could not figure out why the math didn’t add up,"

    What is almost certain is that US healthcare system is a larger source of illegal fentanyl than Canada. If the absurdity that it is a WMD is taken, there should be military security around hospitals before it’s placed at the borders.

    The death potential of the vial of Anthrax Colin Powell quoted to UN was based on using an eye dropper to kill individuals one by one. WMDs actually require mass deaths from one event as a definition.

    Canada needs to immediately stop military cooperation with US. Kick them out of NORAD unless they pay high rent. Stop threatening US enemies, and accepting them as our own.