• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    1 year ago

    Engaging with reality has nothing to do with hating Ukrainians. In fact, the only people who actually hate Ukrainians are the ones who want this war to keep going so that more people die or have their lives ruined. Anybody who looks at what happened over the past two years objectively can see that this has been an utter disaster for Ukraine, and it’s only getting worse.

    • 🆂🆃🅰🅽🅻🅴🆈 🅿🅰🅸🅽@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 year ago

      You know that people can see your post history right?

      You’ve done nothing but post doom and gloom for Ukraine and some fairly pro Russian stuff.

      The war ends when Russia fucks off from my country. It’s that simple. Russia is just pissed that we’ve told them multiple times to fuck off. (Euromaidan, electing Zelensky, etc).

      As far as the article goes nothing surprising really. America is a huge arms dealer who has a massive arsenal at their disposal. This is par the course really. On one side I’m not super pleased that America will be heavily embedded in Ukraine now. On the flip side I’m glad my people are being helped.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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        1 year ago

        What I post is a realistic analysis of the situation, and having delusional fantasies about the state of the war certainly isn’t helping anybody. Also, last I checked Zelensky was elected on the platform of implementing Minsk and patching up relations with Russia. The fact that you would lie about something like this says volumes.

        The reality is that America has hollowed out its industrial power and at this point can’t produce weapons at the rate they’re being consumed in this war. Furthermore, Ukraine isn’t central to US interests because US is ultimately preparing for a war with China. What’s going to happen in the end is that US will abandon Ukraine. Anybody who thinks that US will fight for Ukraine at the expense of US interests is historically illiterate.

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            Donbas has always been the main issue between Ukraine and Russia, and if Zelensky actually followed through on his platform Russia would’ve likely not cared about Ukraine joining the EU. In fact, they even said as much. Instead, Zelensky did a 180 on what he said he’d do and now we are here.

            • 🆂🆃🅰🅽🅻🅴🆈 🅿🅰🅸🅽@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              My dude. I’m from Toretsk. I’ll give you a second to google where that is.

              We voted for him because we wanted the change he was promising. Which was to distance ourselves from the corruptive influence of Russia and move closer to the EU. It’s not like my poeple haven’t even trying to do this for years now.

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                The fact that you can’t even conceive of being able to distance yourself from Russia without escalating tensions with Russia is why your country where it is today. USSR and NATO didn’t want to do with one another during the Cold War, but managed to avoid actual hot conflict. The fact that people can’t even imagine peaceful coexistence today is rather depressing.

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                    People like Mearsheimer explained in detail precisely how the west used Ukraine to escalate tensions over seven years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

                    You still don’t seem to understand that your country is just seen a pawn by US, they don’t care about you at all. RAND literally published a study titled Extending Russia explaininig how Russia could be drawn into a war in Ukraine. They weren’t even hiding it. Yet, some clowns still think that the west is there helping them.

                    This all ends when US decides they’ve invested enough into this grift and move on. The same way Vietnam, Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan ended. If you think you’re country is going to be the one where it’s different you’re even more of a 🤡 than I originally thought. You’re just a resource being spent in a geopolitical game US is playing.

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          I’m sorry. What? Hollowed out our industrial power? Lmfao.

          The US is ramping up production to meet the needs of Ukraine. Granted, it took a bit to get that rolling, but when we decide to make weapons, boy do we make weapons.

          Throw as many articles as you want about how Ukraine is using more ammunition that we are currently producing. They mean nothing.

          We’re giving them our older model stuff from the 90s. Compare that to the mothballed museum pieces Russia is rolling out.

          And I’m not going to respond further because after reading what you posted and preemptively defending this post, you are a troll, a vatnik, a Russian propaganda mouthpiece or all three.