About two-thirds of Canadians surveyed this month said American democracy cannot survive another four years of Donald Trump in the White House, and about half said the United States is on the way to becoming an authoritarian state, a poll released on Monday said.
I think Canadians might want to look in a mirror before worrying about what is happening in the US.
It’s somewhat concerning to me because there is this general “save our Democracy” push now in the media around stopping Trump. It’s concerning because many of the things they said we should worry Trump would do they ended up doing under Biden. It wasn’t that long ago we were told to worry Trump was going to start WW3 by attacking Russia as one example.
Is this more projection about their own intent?
All this comment does is muddy the waters with unsubstantiated claims and whataboutisms. This looks like the exact kind of social engineering being pumped out of China and Russia to attack our democracy and weaken the unity and resolve of Canadians and Americans. Get this shit out of here.
You know they’re worried over the cracks exposed during the Trump years, right? How do you not realize that?
No one ever said that. Ever.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-07-27/how-donald-trump-could-start-a-war-with-russia
https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/354994-this-is-how-trump-could-start-world-war-iii/
No, it was a pretty common thing to talk about Trump starting WW3, not being trusted with nuclear codes, that he was going to start a war with Russia. Yet we see now that we are much closer to WW3 under Biden than Trump. People can’t seem to remember this stuff but was absolutely the narrative.
It’s strange if I look up Biden WW3 it looks like he is outright talking about WW3 but I don’t see any media talking about “this is how Biden could start WW3” or “Biden could start a war with Russia.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/17/why-biden-white-house-keep-talking-about-world-war-iii/
Your absolute statement of “no one ever said that” which I just disproved with 10 seconds of searching, because I know that is in fact what was said many times, shows that you should reconsider your understanding of the situation.
Who was saying Trump would attack Russia? People know his wealth comes from Russia and he fawns over Putin. The worry was that he would be too friendly to Putin.
I already provided sources in another comment. This was part of the “he’s a madman” narrative before the Russia collusion hoax.
If there’s just one reason I don’t want Trump in office, it’s that I don’t want to have news on whatever Trump lied about air on Citynews EVERY goddamn evening.
But we are beyond that. If Trump and his increasingly deranged advisers get to the levers of powers again… it’s not going to be good.
Polievre is a sniveling liar playing political games in our Parliament but even he and 90% of his party haven’t done the likes of above…
Up in Canada we have our share of kooks like the folks that camped out in Ottawa for some time and blocked border crossings… but it’s very clear the source of this type of rhetoric is imported from Americans.
The news obsessing over Trump bad every night is a scary reasoning for not wanting him in office. It means the propaganda and efforts to disenfranchise people are successful. Trump didn’t lie any more than any other President and often his lies are trivial things. Not like Bush lying about Iraq having WMDs or Biden lying about not getting 10% for the big guy and being involved in Hunter’s foreign business operations. The media is deciding how many lies they’re going to attempt to find and put on the news. I’m sure Trump has said some serious lies too but the media making a mockery of themselves only serves to cover those up by creating noise.
This plays into your first question. Trump said he would be a dictator just on the first day to close the border and promote domestic oil. The media, and Biden, is now parroting that he said he would be a dictator “on day one.” That is what he said, but he said for one day, not “forever after starting day one.” It’s a joke and frankly bait for the media and democrats. They are fake news and dishonest. They even went to court with the defense that they aren’t real news agencies just entertainment to avoid following laws actual journalists are supposed to follow.
You can see another example of this in the story I just HAD to sign up to Lemmy in order to respond to. That Trump said “even if you freeze to death it will be worth it to go vote for him in Iowa.” The news, and Lemmy, are clutching their pearls. Trump cares so little about you he doesn’t care if you freeze to death! It’s a joke! And it’s made all the more funny by people trying to mischaracterize it as a serious statement. Trump is going to do this, over and over, because Americans find it absolutely hilarious. Just look at this post and the comments:
https://discuss.online/post/4362152
These people who refuse to let Trump tell a joke will get him reelected because it’s funny watching them try to act like Trump is being serious.
You’re not American so you don’t really get it. COULD Trump be a dictator? Not if our government works the way it is supposed to. The very premise of a President becoming a dictator is funny to Americans and made all the more entertaining because Congress has tried to make the President a dictator and now they’re walking back their own actions in the face of Trump. The AUMF and them discussing removing it is a great example. Here is one of the central core responsibilities of Congress, authorizing war, and they legislated it away and gave the President that power but NOW they want to take it away because someone that isn’t part of the club might have those powers so they’re concerned. There is a much larger context at play as to why this is so funny and why people focusing on these jokes will only further promote Trump. I’m sorry but you definitely will be hearing about it on the news every single night because it’s extremely entertaining and that’s why the “news” who characterizes itself as entertainment and not news will keep promoting it.
Trump and his supporters never organized a violent attack on the Capitol so I’m not sure what point you’re making there. Believe me, if he and his supporters had ORGANIZED AN ATTACK on the Capitol it wouldn’t have looked anything like Jan 6. The crowd at the capitol was made up of federal agents, MAGA idiots, BLM, antifa, and so on. The only person killed there was standing right next to a BLM person who is the one who kept shouting at her to climb through the window. You could just as easily say Biden and his supporters organized nation wide rioting, looting, and murder. Many, many more people died as a result of BLM associated rioting than did at the Capitol. There was billions of dollars in damage done all around the country. Except, that would be disingenous, Biden and his supporters didn’t organize that. You can’t mischaracterize tens of millions of people by the actions of a few hundred. Neither the BLM rioting or the Capitol incident involved more than a few hundred people and neither was approved by, organized by, or involved with Trump or Biden.
I care less whether the news characterized Trump as bad or good, just that I as a Canadian HAD to hear about a leader of another country every day, and I am sick and tired of hearing it. It’s not propaganda, it’s capitalist interests that own news orgs having a field day bringing the latest outrage that keeps the money rolling for them. Simple as that.
Number of lies tallied over 30 thousand over his 4 years in office, averaging 21 a day. This guy is a life-long scammer known for over 30 years for stiffing people on payment and you still advocate for him. Good for you, bud.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-lies-false-presidency-b1790285.html