Even so, much like how users of one email service such as Gmail can still send emails to users of another service such as Outlook, users may still view content and interact with users on any other instance in the fediverse
which implicitly says email is not considered part of the fediverse by comparing the two.
that’s not what the quoted text says at all… let’s rephrase this:
much like how users of one lemmy service such as lemmy.world can still reply to users of another service such as kbin.social, users may still view content and interact with users on any other instance in bluesky
this doesn’t say that lemmy/kbin isn’t part of the fediverse. it takes no position on that fact, merely saying that the things conceptually work in a similar manner
Your rephrasing changed it qualitatively. Of course it takes no position on whether Lemmy is part of the Fediverse considering it now does not have the word Fediverse in it.
@jimmy90@zeppo For sure. One major lesson off the top of my head is with ActivityPub is how errors are presented. I’ve written software to fiddle around with ActivityPub and found servers have terrible - if any - error messages. SMTP provides a bunch of standardised status codes that servers can give back to you, along with diagnostic info. In theory this is possible with apub but in practice it is not addressed at all.
Fediverse is ActivityPub. Email is not, though the theory is somewhat similar.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse
According to Wikipedia, ActivityPub is the “most widely used” protocol, but not the “only” protocol. Still not sure if email would qualify though.
The others listed are bluesky, nostra and farcast. I suppose we could count protocols that nobody uses…
They literally use email as an example in the wiki page, lol
The mention of email is
which implicitly says email is not considered part of the fediverse by comparing the two.
It seems like reading comprehension is not what it used to be.
“Much like” == “very similar too” AKA, “close, but no cigar”
You wouldn’t compare something to the same something, that’s kind of the point of comparisons.
that’s not what the quoted text says at all… let’s rephrase this:
much like how users of one lemmy service such as lemmy.world can still reply to users of another service such as kbin.social, users may still view content and interact with users on any other instance in bluesky
this doesn’t say that lemmy/kbin isn’t part of the fediverse. it takes no position on that fact, merely saying that the things conceptually work in a similar manner
Your rephrasing changed it qualitatively. Of course it takes no position on whether Lemmy is part of the Fediverse considering it now does not have the word Fediverse in it.
fair enough, i wonder if there are lessons to learn from email that can help the fediverse
Well for one, email is inherently insecure, so not sure if the fediverse can learn from that. It’s already not private.
It’s not inherently insecure. There are secure email services but all parties have to be using it.
Exactly, that was my point. Email as it is, is insecure, because you can’t encrypt it and make it work universally unless everyone else does.
@jimmy90 @zeppo For sure. One major lesson off the top of my head is with ActivityPub is how errors are presented. I’ve written software to fiddle around with ActivityPub and found servers have terrible - if any - error messages. SMTP provides a bunch of standardised status codes that servers can give back to you, along with diagnostic info. In theory this is possible with apub but in practice it is not addressed at all.
@fediverse