I’ll soon be assembling a new PC and I need to figure out which version of Win 11 to use. I’ve not been able to find a good discussion of using IoT or LTSC for a “daily driver” gaming and productivity PC.
I’ll want to make use of a lot of Windows features like virtualization, the ability to run Android apps, and the Linux subsystem. I don’t need all the new feature updates immediately, but I also don’t want to be running an antique OS… Just a debloated one.
If you’ve navigated these waters I would love to hear about your experience.
Linux
Ive been enjoying https://universal-blue.org/ lately.
If you go windows you will have to use a version with the windows store to make it worth using.
+1 I went from windows 11 >>> Bazzite OS. Never looked back.
+1 for Bazzite 💖
Hi. You can play games from FitGirl in Bazzite OS? They run well or it is better Windows here? Thanks.
ps. im a linux user (i just use linux like… i dont know maybe 15 years) but this months i buy a new pc with good hardware (the best in my life so far) and download windows to… play some games… sadly because, as i say, i almost always use linux.
So far, I haven’t tried any games from FitGirl. However, most Windows games work perfectly if you set up Proton and Wine correctly. There are a few YouTube tutorials specifically designed for Bazzite.
oh i see. This days im playing Elden Ring from fit girl, so i will wait until finish this game to delete the fucking windows and try hacked games in Linux. Thanks!
(i will be probably a lot of time playing… this game is amazing but time cosuming, it is too good)
MS Store can be installed on LTSC quite easily so it’s very possible to still have the bloat-free version.
most debian based distros are good…
I don’t have any experience with win 11, but all I can tell you is that my dual booted win 10 iot ltsc 2021 edition just werks for me, same as any other windows, although I only use it for some VR games currently or some software that doesn’t support Linux.
LTSC is extremely feasible for gaming and productivity. As Codilingus already said, you can get the ISO and activation from MASSGRAVE’s site.
Depending on your requirements, you’ll probably quickly figure out you need MS Store for one thing or another (the inconvenience of having pretty much everything removed) so you’ll need a tool like this to install the store and, you can use Chris Titus’ Wintool to turn off the spyware. It also has a program downloader built in with a long list of useful software to help speed up your initial setup process.
I had not considered that LTSC would eliminate the store, which is definitely useful at times. Thanks for that link!
Thanks to the two of you I tried 11 IoT LTSC and it’s been great. I had no problems adding the store as you suggested. The Titus tool I already knew, it delivers.
Thanks again for encouraging me to give it a try.
Glad I could be of help
Wants to run a ‘debloated OS’ and asking about Windows 11 installation advice. Wut?? Litteraly no reason to be running Windows nowadays. You can game on GNU/Linux just fine and if you really need something Windows specific you can always run it through Wine (with Bottles for instance) or in a Windows VM (if you have a gaming PC then you 100% have a powerfull enough computer for virtualisation).
adobe users need windows, it is the obvious route. A debloated version of Windows is better than Unix-like system for that. If one wants to learn more about software and computer science, or wants more customization than Linux and BSD are miles better. also running a VM of Linux inside Windows is arguably a better idea than running VM of Windows in Linux.
It’s like asking between Firefox and Chrome, I use Firefox but Chrome is still faster and more likely to run a site than firefox
I should have known I’d get my ass beat for asking a question on the internet, right? Haha.
check my post here: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/5611021
I got similar reaction but also some good suggestion, and I also recommended some things
Good stuff, thanks.
I just install Windows 11 Pro N, it comes with much less bloat than the normal Pro version. Then I run the Ameliorated playbook to get rid of most of the spyware and all the other junk. You can also run a script from privacy.sexy for good measure, but AME should handle most of it.
Just make sure to install the Windows Media Feature Pack from the “Optional features” dialog in the settings before running AME, because it might not be possible afterwards.New stuff to me, thank you!
this can break windows in anyway that affects games?? i just use Windows to play games (cracked games of course) Thanks
Previously I ran Win 10 IoT LTSC, with a bunch of scripts from https://privacy.sexy/
I believe most things will work about the same in Win 11. Be sure not to disable anything you might actually need as it can be hard to diagnose.
I use CachyOS on my gaming rig and it has been outstanding. The only ting that doesn’t work is the EA app.
CachyOS
Games from fit girl works??? thanks
I don’t know about fitgirl specifically, I don’t actually pirate a lot of games.
I’ll want to make use of a lot of Windows features like virtualization, the ability to run Android apps, and the Linux subsystem.
Just stick with regular windows 11. Windows updates don’t come out that often, and feature updates can be ignored for 6+ months.
There’s a lot of bloat in the commercial versions of Windows, both 10 and 11. It’s easy to install the MS store on LTSC and for those who don’t need/want the features, the bloat is entirely pointless.
And there’s a ton of tools to remove the bloat from regular windows. Honestly the biggest problem with those is they tend to go hog wild and remove too many things so you have to be careful with them and not just blindly click “remove everything possible”.
The major H2 updates do legitimately add a lot of features that people would actually want, that LTSC and IoT don’t get. If you’re mostly playing older games that’s not a problem. But if you’re trying to play games that just recently came out it can be. Windows 10 stopping at 22H2 has kinda put a pause on that, but I’m sure once it goes EOL Microsoft games will resume the “march of progress” and start requiring new features.
Honestly the biggest problem with those is they tend to go hog wild and remove too many things so you have to be careful with them and not just blindly click “remove everything possible”.
Facts. They are useful tools, but even though I thought I was being careful I wiped out some useful features like URL autocomplete when I experimented with the Titus tool.
We’ll see. Game development still generally has a lot of advancements it has yet to leverage so I’m comfortable with the choice I’ve made. I know about the tools to gut regular Windows but I assessed it would take me more effort to weed through than start with bare bones and add what little I wanted in. I’ve also tended to find every feature and minor update has inevitably messed with an object that is supposed to belong to me so I’m all aboard for not having to deal with that as often thanks to the long-term strategy of LTSC.
