• reddig33@lemmy.world
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    Would Canada be interested in joining the EU? Might make sense considering what a bad neighbor the US has become.

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      And Canada does have a land border with an EU country - Denmark. Canada and Denmark had a long standing border dispute over Hans island featuring multiple armed raids. It was resolved in a mature and sensible fashion to just divide the island. Good for all involved.

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        Canada also has land in France. The Vimy Ridge memorial is officially Canadian territory, granted by France.

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        multiple armed raids

        I mean…technically…sure. But the two armed groups were never actually there at the same time. They simply came at different times to swap Whiskey and Schnaps.

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        The only ‘dispute’ I know about on Hans island was the Whisky Dispute, which was resolved peacefully after years of soldiers ‘claiming’ the land by stealing each other’s flags and leaving booze for each other. More like a very lazy game of capture the flag if you ask me.

        Are these the armed raids you refer to?

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          Yes. The raids were mostly to not to forfeit their territorial claims, booze left as a sorry for the trouble gift.

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      This Canadian would be happy to join.

      I think the EU is waiting to see if we get PP or not since we’re on the brink of stupidity like the US was. If we elect a PM interested in being a civilized member of the global stage, I think we’ll be invited in.

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      I would love to join the EU, my grandpa immigrated to Canada from the Netherlands after WW2 but Netherlands doesn’t offer citizenship to grandchildren ):

      Would be nice to have the freedom of travel to the EU and vice versa if anyone wants to come over and visit Canada.

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      I’m doubtful full membership will ever happen, and even an EEA Norway-style agreement where we adopt 75% of the EU’s laws without representation but keep our fishing and agricultural policies (pre-requisites for the Atlantic and Prairie Provinces to agree), would take decades to be negotiated, signed and ratified with all the dysfunctional, proportional representational governments in Europe right now.

      There’s been discussions about “associate membership” in the EU to bypass the European-ness requirement, but I don’t think that’s gotten any traction.

      I would be grateful for any kind of free movement agreement that gains traction right now, even with CARICOM or MERCOSUR.

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        Nonsense those countries with proportional representation are more stable and perform better on a variety of issues.

        They score higher on the democracy index than we do.

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      At first glance it sounds good but joining the EU officially is unnecessarily complex. It would make more sense to join Europe similar to Iceland and Norway.

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      It would be terrible for our country, just look at the impact the mere thought of tarrifs has had on our economy. A full renegotiation of the US Canada trade border would be chaos.

      Europeans are cool and I wish we had your public transit, but EU membership of a NA country will never happen.

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        A full renegotiation of the US Canada trade border would be chaos

        But that is precisely what Trump is demanding now. Even though he tore up NAFTA and renegotiated the deal in his first presidency (I am sure I remember him saying it was the greatest trade deal ever signed and the greatest win for TrumpAmerica).

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        You’re getting downvoted. But I agree with you.

        Canada can accomplish most of its goals regarding diversifying its trade away from the U.S. without having to go to full EU status.

        But I sure wouldn’t mind having some of those lovely French nukes sitting on our southern border right now. If full EU membership is what it takes for that to happen, so be it.

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      At the very least, Canada should be allowed to participate in the Eurovision song contest!

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    Unpopular take maybe…

    Canada does not need to join the EU to increase trade and partnerships. More trade agreements and joint projects. The EU is a complicated political structure and joining it is unnecessarily complicateted.

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      Absolutely correct. There are plenty of mutually beneficial arrangements short of full membership. And an EU membership application process typically takes decades. We need solutions now.

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      I don’t think anyone in this picture seriously expects Canada to officially join the EU. The US would never allow such an interference with its manifest destiny. But we can make a close partnership even closer.

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        Not in the picture, but other folks in this posts comments are taking this possibility too seriously

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      They don’t need to join it as a full member to have trade and economic benefits. Simple (!) alignment with standards and regulations will allow free access to the market and free movement of people.

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        Is there any reason to not join the EU if we want to align standards, regulations, and allow free movement?

        The only thing I can think of that would be a hard change would be our dollar. We could possibly negotiate to keep that though - I don’t know if the EU is still making exceptions like that or if that was just at the beginning.

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          The EU and US standards are very different and products for one can’t necessarily be shipped to the other and vice versa. Examples for food include massive differences for colourings, preservatives and the like. Europe will not accept chicken washed in chlorinated water or bright froot loops. Health traffic lights are also going to be different.

          While it’s possible to have 2 production lines, 1 for each economic zone, that’s expensive for producers and shippers.

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            Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that Canada’s food standards with regards to dyes and preservatives are already far closer to the EU standard than the American.

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    What a shitty pic for 80% of them. Is that a full blown eye roll?

    (I am for this group getting together like this, but what a badly timed photo for a bunch of people who professionally try to look good in photos)

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      I assume there are multiple cameras from multiple press agencies, so they’re looking all over.

      The one you’re talking about probably hadn’t blinked in a minute.

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        Nah, she just let one rip, sending up a prayer that JT doesn’t catch a whiff before the photo is snapped.

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          I’m not JT’s biggest fan, but he does consistently carry himself well. He could put on a happy smile in front of Trump ripping a loud, stinky one without even so much as a flinch.

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            Do I agree with everything he did policy wise? Nah

            Do I think he’s kinda gotten a shit break over things kinda out of his control? Yeah, I do, I think he did as good as most leaders did through covid, and a fair sight better than a certain Cheeto.

            Sure he puts his foot in it from time to time, but the guy has class. He may be a filthy Liberal, and on the more anti-worker side of things, but I feel like he did quite a decent job representing Canada.

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    Make Canada Great Again… by making it the 28th member of the EU, LET’S GOOOO!!?

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    You beat me to it!

    I was going to post this with the caption “Democracy’s last stand” or something similar.