This is one sample visit to the conservative subreddit. It’s an appalling example of the impact of disinformation. When you need to be reminded of who the enemy is and what they think, visit here. You will see that there is no gratitude or mutual respect, and there never was. There was never any concept of mutual benefit. And now, with Trump leading the cult, there truly is no depth to which they won’t go, and no decisions from Trump that won’t be retroactively justified.

These people are dangerous, and they don’t give a shit about any alliances, friendship or partnership. And they control the levers of power.

Edit to add a screenshot. Not sure how to add more, but it doesn’t get any better as you go deeper. What’s clear is that this relationship is over, and we need to move on.

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      Many of them are, but sadly, many of them are actual people that are just that fucking brainwashed.

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        I kind of have pity for them. It’s hard these days to see the lies from the truth when the vast majority of the media is owned by corporations who control the narrative, and cherry pick and spin the information to their own benefits. Then you add content pushing algorithms and AI to the mix. They get fed continuous content with similar interests. And also AI generated content that not only generates pretty convincing visuals but now also convincing articles, online posts and even direct conversations.

        Anyone that lacks education and critical thinking skills can quickly get suckered into becoming conservative.

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          Unfortunately, propaganda works. The best antidote is emphasis on things you can see firsthand but most people don’t know shit about whether or not immigrants are actually responsible for crimes (they mostly aren’t). All they get is a small increase in costs of living. So they listen to the talking heads on TV who scapegoat whatever minority or target of the week, and if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people eventually come to believe it.

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      Would it surprise anyone if it was a Russian run subreddit. Heard moderation is heavy handed to quickly snuff out dissent with people having their conservative flairs taken away if they dare question dear leader who drinks the sun and eats the sky.

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      Fascists love AI generated slop, because it cuts the artist out of the art, so many of these might be real. Please be noted that platforms now often defend AI bots from countering, as they’re now hiding comments with common jailbreak phrases (which are also trivial to filter by the bot operators).

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          With them, you can get some of these chatbots to do things they’re instructed not to.

          One of the most popular was “ignore all previous instructions”, then came the “ignore all previous instructions including the instruction to ignore this one”, and for a long time there was “my grandmother used to […]”.

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            Aaaah ok I get it.

            I don’t use AI chatbots so I don’t especially think about these things.

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    Lmao.

    “My act of war is not an act of war. Your response to it is!!!” - Trump Sheep #15674

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      Funny, it’s exactly what Putin said about Ukraine. That and “It’s not a real country,” which Elon Musk recently said of Canada.

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      I mean, this is basically how the US enters every war - from Iraq to Korea to the Spanish American war to 1812.

      Hell, the Civil War started with Confederate cannon shells being viciously assaulted by Fort Sumtner’s barricades.

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    Wow, so glad this brave American here could teach me so much about my own country. Let me just call up my drug dealing prime minister governor and demand that he fix Canada immediately lest we face more punishment from Poppa Cheeseball. Thank you r/conservative, I’d be so lost without you proper Americans leading the way.

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    That subreddit is nothing more than an echo chamber. If you express an even slightly reasonable view, you get banned.

    The only way for dissenting opinions to be expressed is with the downvote button, and even then most reasonable people avoid going there because it’s so frustrating to read.

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    I used to read it to see what conservatives were thinking. There used to be actual discourse in the comments about policy positions. It’s now nothing more than brainrot and Russian trolls.

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    I’m confused. The screenshot you shared just has two idiots sharing stupid opinions and 1.1 thousand/389 people (likely from the same subreddit) disagreeing with them.

    I’m not saying the conservative subreddit isn’t unhinged, but this feels pretty cherry picked.

    Maybe share a photo of the most upvoted comments for a better reference?

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      If you spent time on other platforms like Threads you’d see a lot more of this being continuously spewed. It’s why I deleted my accounts on several services. While this might be a cherry picked example from that sub, the far right revisionist take is far, far more common on popular social media than you think.

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      It was a highly-awarded reply to the top comment, so it was the second comment you would see by default sorting (though it starts minimized).

      But yeah to @OP this is not America or what Americans think. That sub is pure Russian disinfo and astroturfing. You could argue that it represents the administration and current policy, but most of the actual people here recognize this as lunacy, even on within the Putin echo chamber.

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    It has been interesting to see “Canadian Conservatives”, some of them top commenters, get viciously turned on by /r/conservative while lamenting about how this is hurting PP and the Conservatives movement in Canada.

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    The problem is that we no longer agree on what reality is with Trump sycophants. For them lies are truth, night is day, less then 1% of fentanyl is a national emergency, etc even when presented with facts and objectivity. It’s legit terrifying and I don’t know how to fix it. I don’t know how our politicans are able to deal with people they can’t share reality with. Canada’s going to bear the brunt of US delusion and unreality.

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      I found this video interesting, about Bonhoeffer’s theory of stupidity and how it relates to Arendt’s investigation into what made Nazis do what they did. In brief, he characterises stupidity as not just ignorance, but ignorance that resists and is opposed to learning, and he said this stupidity could be a more damaging force than evil.

      https://youtu.be/53ZaXpIn2fg

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    0.2% of fentanyl inflow and 1.5% of migrants come via Canada. Both those justifications are just propaganda designed to manufacture consent for further pressure to push Canada to allow more influence by the malign forces that have pervaded the US. It’s just the next step by oligarchs.

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    Yeah, a trade war with Canada is easy to win for the US

    A trade war with Canada and Mexico is a bit tougher, the two biggest trading partners, pretty much

    Mexico, Canada and China is tough

    Mexico l, China, Canada, and the EU? You’re fucked US

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        Sanctioning China means a lot less when they’ve got half a dozen unaligned economies to back door and a voracious domestic economy to feed.

        Sanctioning Canada is a bigger deal because of how much of the urban center is just plastered in a thin layer over America’s northern border. Toronto, Windsor, and Vancouver can’t function without access to their direct southern neighbors.