• trebuchet@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Lemmy sure loves copyright and intellectual property once you change who the pirate is.

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      1 year ago

      Almost like the context matters and the world isn’t entirely made up of black and white binary choices because we’re not robots or computers and discrete logic does not apply to human moral arguments.

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        1 year ago

        Conveniently, these moral arguments that are freed from the confines of discrete logic also allow people on /c/piracy to ignore the rules when justifying their own piracy, and still condemn others they already happen to dislike when they do piracy.

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            1 year ago

            So IP law for individuals = bad, but IP law for corporations = good is the general argument here?

            Is there a principled basis for this argument?

            It seems like a lot of art like musicians or novelists rely almost entirely on earnings from selling their works to individuals. Wouldn’t a legal regime like you’re advocating basically make producing art for real people a lot less lucrative comparatively and drive those artists into making corporate art and marketing materials?

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      That’s like saying everyone should let people enjoy their kinks and you come in and say "aha, then pedophilia is allowed, ya?

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      Ralph Waldo Emerson:

      A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." His point was that only small-minded men refused to rethink their prior beliefs.

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        So what you’re saying is this episode has caused you/others here on /c/piracy to rethink your prior beliefs, and now you see some value in the copyright legal regime?

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          Not really. We believe in what we believe. You’re the goblin who sticks on to consistency.

          Piracy is a service problem. If you want it to disappear, corporate greed got to disappear.

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      The current top whipping boy is AI, apparently. “AI must be bad” is the highest level assumption, so apparently even in this piracy community that overrides the usual “copyright must be bad” assumption.

      Or is it actually “Meta must be bad?” I’ve lost track of who the Five Minutes Hate is supposed to be directed at lately.

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          I’ve lost track because I don’t care who the whipping boy is supposed to be. I form my own opinions.

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            Wow, lol, that one went way over your head.

            I called you stupid because of what you said. There is no universal whipping boy, you also struggle with reading comprehension, pretty severely.

            I always find it so weird how the people who scream “I FORM MY OWN OPINIONS” are usually the dumbest, with the least formed opinions. You need to use that as a buffer because you don’t have a thought out opinion but you’re afraid of not being apart of the conversation.