• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Dear Canada. This isn’t us. This is the new asshole in power. Americans don’t hate you. We love you. And I can’t speak for every American, but I’d rather defect and fight WITH you than fight a war against you over this petty shit.

    Actually, can I defect even if we don’t go to war? I’d just LOVE to not be here the next 4 years, but I’m pretty sure I’d stay after that too. You’ll have to teach me which Canadian hockey team I should root for. And if anything, we’ll fight a war to get the Expos back.

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      Cool story but that is what Americans chose, yes. It’s your representative. Americans might not hate Canadians, but Americans only love themselves and will eventually learn that this leads you to behave selfishly and be hated.

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        Cool, let’s alienate the people who are also against this bullshit. I’m sure that will help.

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          One American to another, we need to recognize that most of our country either voted for this or enabled it by not voting. Most if us either support this malicious behavior or are apathetic to it. Sure. If you take a poll, most Americans don’t want the us to mess with Canada. But if people won’t even vote, then how do you expect them to take up arms to save Canada?

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            Also consider the amount of influence oligarchs created to get their president to power, divide everyone and put blame on each other.

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          If anyone feels alienated, deal with it. I’m not saying this to make an enemy but neighbors will get no cookies or pats on the back for doing the absolute minimum, then coming here tell us “on behalf of half of us, I’m sorry” and that “this is not us”. Yes it is, face it and deal with it. Do more and to better.

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      This may not be you specifically, but more than two-thirds of Americans directly or indirectly chose this clown as your president.

      The fight you want to join? It’s already started. The people best positioned to stop this are being fired. The checks and balances are being removed or taken over.

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        Well, actually it’s one-quarter of us that chose this clown. See - funny story - the voting system is not compulsory and there’s kind of an equal measure of apathy and voter-disenfranchising that goes on whereby clowns make it harder for non-clowns to vote, and then a bunch of bizarro clowns claim voting is a scam or some shit, and then about a third of the population just . . doesn’t do it. For. some reason. (Sometimes valid reasons, but not usually.)

        So we’re way ahead of you in hating those Americans who backed this traitorous demented rapist piece of shit, but it is only representative of us in that our fucked-up voting system makes it look like that.

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          Those who couldn’t be bothered to vote against Trump, or who were too ignorant to understand why they should, can’t be counted on for anything at all - and certainly not to help stop the USA from invading Canada.

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          That one quarter represents one half of Americans, whether they’re disenfranchised or not.

          You can’t absolve yourselves of blame, just because of the ‘system’.

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            You can’t absolve yourselves of blame, just because of the ‘system’.

            “Every black person American is responsible for all the actions of any other black person American.”

            The Americans who did vote against Trump are not responsible for this cluster fuck, maybe blaming them for things they can’t control isn’t helpful…

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              No one’s blaming the people who voted against him, we’re blaming the people who didn’t.

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                You can’t absolve yourselves of blame, just because of the ‘system’.

                Sure as fuck sounds like they are blaming OP, with no indication that OP didn’t vote against Trump.

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          Yep and that is exactly why 2/3 or you wanted this. The 1/3 that didn’t vote was like ok he seems fine.

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      Isn’t it, though? Isn’t this how the USA has treated most countries smaller than it? Less wealthy than it? Less white than it?

      Growing up outside of the US, this behaviour seems completely in line with how the country has always behaved on the international stage, just pointed at one of the “good” countries.

      Trump is the average Murica, Fuck Yeah type that we meet online all of the time, and have for the past 30+ years. He’s the Yankee tourist that comes into our towns and expects us to accept their foreign currency, weather their patronizing questions, and cater to their idiosyncratic demands.

      Trump doesn’t seem like a surprise to us. He seems like the natural outcome of a country that has tooted its own horn on the world stage for 80 years, that has glorified its military and its military might, that has waved the phrase “American Exceptionalism” at its own population without irony, and that long mythologized its history. Remember, fascism was popular in the US 90 years ago. The only problem y’all had with the Nazis was that they were German. I mean, if you use Ur-Fascism as a checklist, the USA checks off most of the boxes on a good year.

      You might not be cognizant of that, but many of us living outside your borders very much are.

      I don’t like what I see in the mirror most days, either. But I don’t get to deny the grey hairs and aging face. I sure as hell don’t go out in public shouting to the world “I’m not getting old; this greying, overweight man isn’t me!”

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      I like the energy but we need Americans to clean up their own yard while it’s still safe to do so.

      Nut jobs think that they’re the majority because they are behaving boorishly in public and nobody is holding them to account. The quiet majority needs to organize and show them that undesirable actions have proportional and consistently negative consequences.

      That could mean a lot of things. Big things like being a trans ally and showing up for demonstrations. Small things like not inviting your MAGA uncle to family occasions. But things they must be. The jackboots are winning because people are typing anger into a box then staying home to shop and watch Netflix reality TV.

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      Americans go to war with less powered countries over resources quite often, actually. This is absolutely you.

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      Are you not supposed to have guns and have a bunch of people in the same situation to supposedly defend your people in case of government tyranny, instead of just letting this happen and apologize?

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      No it is you. You voted for this. And are frankly doing nothing to stop this guy.

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      Dear Canada. This isn’t us. This is the new asshole in power. Americans don’t hate you.

      Dear Canada. Native Americans still hate you.

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      This too shall pass. Canadians and Americans have always been friends (1812 wasn’t Canadians, it was the British) and shall continue to be despite the efforts of one madman. For now we just need to weather this storm, and if it comes to it, we’ll fight with you. We always have our friends backs, and we know that you have ours.

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      It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal. -Henery Kissinger

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    The USA has had dreams of this forever.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red

    Not to fear, we also made similar plans. (Should have done it when we had the chance)

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_Scheme_No._1

    Defence Scheme No. 1 was a war plan created by Canadian Director of Military Operations and Intelligence Lieutenant Colonel James “Buster” Sutherland Brown, for a Canadian pre-emptive attack against the United States in the (hypothetical) case of a conflict between the United States and the British Empire.

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    He barfs out these demented ramblings that get slurped up by corporate news sewers and now it’s in the headlines like it was ever anything more than a misfiring syphilitic group of neurons in front of a microphone.

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    And the political raping continues. They’re turning out to be that really bad neighbor no one wants, on steroids.

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    Redraw the boarders? Like what they did with golf of Mexico? Because no way Canada will agree on this.

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      Could you edit your comment to include a homophone in your third sentence? For instance, substitute “no” with “know”, or “way” with “weigh”?

      I’ll delete my comment afterwards. It’s just that comedy often comes in threes.

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      I don’t believe it’s most. If you add those who support Trump to those who are too indifferent to bother to vote against him, the people who will oppose him are in a minority. And even some of that minority is “don’t rock the boat” Democrats who will go along with the status quo, even as it lurches to the right. Others are scared and won’t do anything to help. Trump’s favorability rating bumps along at around 45-52% these days, and Americans have a strong tendency to rally behind the troops and the President even in needless and cruel wars, and they’re suckers for propaganda. So I don’t believe a majority are on Canada’s side in any meaningful way. Americans will fall in line, and Canada has to defend itself against this aggression.

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      I wouldn’t count on it. Americans want to seem strong but are really just weak babies. Most well just go along well saying I need my guns for government overreach well just allowing it to happen.