Nothing says “classy” like flying that flag.

Good L🍁ck Trudeau! (But also, don’t let the door hit you on the way out…)

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      I loved that the original attack ad they had when he was first running for Prime Minister was that he was too young and handsome to be a leader.

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            In hindsight he was the best leader they had in a long time

            But the Cons are kind of like the scorpion and the frog and I did not trust them one bit.

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          I’m embarrassed they latched onto his hair. And now, all they can say is ‘carbon tax’, like we’re all rich enough where it’s a tax and not a benefit.

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            I’ve met plenty of people who weren’t rich enough who were still certain it was a tax and not a benefit.

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        I’ll also always remember how the Liberals pulled a judo-reverse on the Conservatives by turning their main line of attack back against them. I knew from the moment I saw that ad with Trudeau on the escalator that the Liberals would win.

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            That’s the one.

            I don’t know if my memory of that era comports with actual history, but this is how I remember it playing out:

            It looked like the Conservative attack ads were going to win the election for them again, just as they had against Dion and Ignatieff. They were ahead and gaining in the polls, and the Liberals seemed to have no response. The slogan was, “Trudeau: he’s just not ready.”

            Then the polls stabilized for a few days, and the Liberals released that ad. The polls started rapidly reversing, and the Liberals decisively swept into power. I don’t think I even saw another, “he’s not ready,” attack ad from the Conservatives again after that.

            EDIT: One can debate how much of an effect that ad had, and whether Trudeau’s actions matched it’s promises, but for me it will always stick out as a good bit of political strategy.

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        That was defintely the beginning of the end for Trudeau. And lost him all the young voters.

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        Proportional representation is not the answer because the party system does not work to begin with.

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          But proportional representation does not require political parties to be a part of the electoral system.

          See single transferable vote (STV): A Simple Guide to Electoral Systems. It’s still a work in progress, but lays out a good framework for discussing electoral systems.

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            But proportional representation does not require political parties to be a part of the electoral system.

            I never said proportional representation requires political parties. I said, and I quote, “Proportional representation is not the answer because the party system does not work to begin with.” meaning the system PR is being tacked on to doesn’t work and we aren’t fixing anything switching from FPTP to PR if we keep the party system.

            The party system is the single biggest issue with our Politics. It prevents independents from ever being elected and allows a few parties to control the entire political landscape and narrative.

            Which is why the entire history of Canada has been Conservative Government, Liberal Opposition or Liberal Government, Conservative opposition on a federal level excluding that one time because the right old white guy lead the NDP.

            The point is we need a complete overhaul, and not a tune up so electoral reform should mean the entire system if we are going to go through with it because it is a huge undertaking.

            I also do not need to have you pretentiously offer me “simple guides to political systems” because I think you are wrong.

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              There isn’t a modern democracy in the world that doesn’t have political parties. And for good reason, it’s wholly impractical. Even single party states such as China have political parties…

              The reason we have two major parties is described in Duverger’s law. You don’t have to think I’m right or wrong, because this is just the reality.

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                “Parties” are inevitable just by simple human nature. It’s the same reason cliques exist in highschool; We gravitate towards people we agree with and eventually (either purposefully or not) begin to align our decision making.

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                  Our tribalism is one of our greatest weakness’ and the ability to change our base responses and nature is one of our greatest strengths as a species.

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                There isn’t a modern democracy in the world that doesn’t have political parties. And for good reason, it’s wholly impractical. Even single party states such as China have political parties…

                There was a point where Democracy didn’t exist, and it wasn’t that long ago. We can do better than our less intelligent ancestors can’t we? Especially when we all agree generally that the systems we have aren’t working.

                Human tribalism will be our downfall. Just because everyone is doing it doesn’t make it right and it doesn’t mean the alternative is “wholly impractical”. It just means humans are a generally ignorant and stubborn species who hate change and cannot imagine things beyond what they know.

                Which is the actual reason why we have political parties much like other Primates have their social systems that can be found across the species regardless of how beneficial it is or isn’t to the health of the overall species. We aren’t that far removed from our cousins.

                If you can explain exactly what makes removing political parties from the system wholly impractical I am all ears, otherwise do not waste further time responding with wikipedia links you clearly do not understand.

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                  There was a point where Democracy didn’t exist, and it wasn’t that long ago

                  Yeah, back when democracy didn’t exist, humanity lived in misery compared to today’s living standards.

                  We can do better than our less intelligent ancestors can’t we? Especially when we all agree generally that the systems we have aren’t working.

                  Yeah, the better system is called proportional representation.

                  political parties from the system wholly impractical

                  Believe it or not, there is no part of our FPTP electoral system entrenches that political parties in the first place. I know you might not like it, but it’s factually the truth. They organically come about because people, it’s the most efficient way to organize.

                  otherwise do not waste further time responding with wikipedia links you clearly do not understand.

                  You are a very angry person, lol. But regardless, Duverger’s law is the reason we have a “two party” system.

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      That’s how I read those signs. That Bubba in the truck had a boner for Justin.

      My response to those truck flags was always “Gay and proud. YES! You go girl!”

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      He is a thirst trap though even after ten years in office. He’s only 53 seems very young to retire. I’m curious to know what he does next. UN ambassador? Ambassador for Canada to France?

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        I hope we keep him around as Chief Toddler Wrangler every time Trump comes sniffing around.

        I’m not a big Trudeau fan but he’s amazing at dealing with that creep. Remember the handshake during Trump’s first term?

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          Yeah totally, he countered Trumps weak “power handshake” and that was awesome.

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      I’m honestly shocked that nobody’s made one saying “Trudeau f🍁cked Mrs Trump” or somesuch.

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    Once saw a fuck Trudeau flag next to a every child matters flag on the same truck. Based centrist alert.

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    Saw a f🍁CK Trump flag in Canada the other day and had to do a double take. I don’t like Trump, but I still don’t like the flags.