I like a lot of the communities on that instance, but every once in a while I just get hit with a random wave of toxicity by them for no reason. For example, there was a post asking which communities from Reddit do you wish existed on Lemmy, and I answered honestly saying more car related communities as they are one of my hobbies, and I got severely downvoted and got replied to with “there is a FuckCars community” There are other times in the past where something similar happened in a lemmy.ml community, where I said something that was 100% non-offensive, non-argumentative, and non-political but got mass down voted for no reason. I have not had this problem anywhere else however. Does anyone else have a similar experience or no?
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Stop caring about ‘votes’
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Don’t caring about what people you don’t want to hear from. Just block them.
I apologize to everyone I’m about to insult but lemmy users generally behave like redditors. People generally don’t write comments with relevant information in order to have them passed over. It can be frustrating, especially when the rest of the comments are repeated jokes or could be summarized as alternative articulations of “this.”
Yes. unfortunately the behavior modification sticks with them. I recall seeing some submissions with pictures of text as well 🙄
Nah, there’s one key difference between lemmy users and Reddit users. They behave mostly the same, but there is also a sense of superiority where they just think they know better because of the platform they choose to use.
That is true for reddit and lemmy. No difference really.
Redditors think they’re better than everyone else. Lemmy users think they’re better than Redditors and everyone else. Lemmy users are one step higher on the superiority complex totem pole
This.
Seriously, people, start filtering out who gets to tell you shit.
Of course, don’t overdo it and create an echo chamber for yourself, block the extremes, but don’t block basic disagreement.
I started doing this years ago, primarily on Twitch.
I despise copy pastas and edgelord comments, it’s why I generally watch streamers that have a relatively chill and small audience.
But I do go into Kripps chat simply to fill up my block list with people that relentlessly spam chats with copy pastas and other similar sorts of comments.
Later I started being a bit more gung-ho doing the same on all platforms and it made all types of social media oh so much better.
You’ll quickly notice that a lot of the comments that put your teeth on edge came from the same few loud and obnoxious people, because once you start blocking people like that, after just 10-20 of them, the comments you see are already far more palatable.
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You mentioning the car thing is so true. Anytime you mention stuff about cars here, you’ll get the typical comment reply using it as a soapbox platform to say how cars are the devil.
The FuckCars users are some of the most toxic people on this site. It’s not even worth arguing with them.
I get why people are anti cars. But those who want to take cars away from people who enjoy them and who are trying to behave responsibly just suck.
Same thing for technology.
I had to block five tech communities because it’s nothing but “technology evil” posts and comments, and when I complain about the lack of positive feedback, they just tell me I’m ignorant to reality…which is irrelevant to me just wanting to enjoy positive tech communities…
And god forbid you mention Windows. You’ll be told you’re better off dead in no time…
I stopped hanging out in most tech communities for the same reason. Thinking of quiting a few more and a few game ones, the behaviour has started dripping in.
Why don’t you guys start a new community that suits you? I bet there’s more people that feel the same way.
As I recall, there was a split in that Reddit community about whether to migrate here. Most of them decided to stay there on the (reasonable) grounds that they wanted to reach as many people as possible with their (IMO justified) message. So presumably the ones who came here are the dogmatic ideologues who prefer hating to persuading.
thats an extremely weird assumption to make as a lemmy user
Haven’t seen too much negativity on lemmy.ml or lemmy.world but did want to say that we have a Mechanic Advice community that’s growing a little every day if you’re into that stuff. It’s a fetus now but will be grown in no time
Oh, and the community is https://lemmy.world/c/mechanicadvice for anyone interested!
You’re just gonna mention this and not provide a link? Tsk tsk.
Didn’t know anyone would be interested! Here ya go https://lemmy.world/c/mechanicadvice join, comment and post away! If there’s anything you’d like to see in the community let me or someone else know, we’re still figuring it out
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !mechanicadvice@lemmy.world
There’s dozens of us! Dozens!
Almost a dozen dozens!
Odd that it never came up when I searched for it previously. I wonder if you might be missing subscribers because they can’t find the community like me.
It’s only really been active for a little bit, maybe that’s why? Aside from that, I’d guess that maybe it’s an issue with different instances though couldn’t say for certain as I’m Lemmy inept. Are you on Lemmy.world?
No, I’m on sh.itjust.works but I can search lemmy.world. i was active on mech advice on Reddit before coming over here and have looked for it a few times. Even now, though, I searched for it right before I took the direct link to the community and got nothing. It’s just weird.
Your instance probably simply doesnt know that this community exist. You cant magically see all communities on a different instance you’re federated with.
It’s one of the problems of activitypub right now.
I figured you could! That is strange. I searched it just now and got it, the only difference I can think of other than being on sh.itjust.works would maybe be the app you’re using? I’m not savvy enough to have much of a guess tbh but it would be nice if people could find us!
I know I was bummed out when I couldn’t find a community for it, one of the biggest miffs I had about leaving Reddit!
That’s my guess, either federation or app. Hopefully it doesn’t affect a lot of other people!
Thanks for putting me on
Welcome!
I said something that was 100% non-offensive, non-argumentative, and non-political
This is 2023. Everything is offensive, political, and people will argue about it.
Now I don’t like your tone. Your probably one of those people, who vote for the other party.
Yeah, everyone in my party is perfect. Your party is the one that’s full of dumbass douchewads that just want to rape children and kill puppies. Your party is the only thing stopping the world from becoming nirvana. I’m referring to the enlightened state, not the 90s band. I don’t want you spreading disinformation or fake news saying that I want everyone on Earth to be in the same band. That would obviously be too big of a band to fit on stage.
Who says the entire band needs to fit on stage? It’s not the 90’s anymore, gosh.
So, you’re one of those anti-stage people. You’re what’s wrong with the world today. We need to get rid of all the anti-stage people so we can have a better tomorrow.
Now I don’t like your tone. Your probably one of those people, who vote for the other party.
And now I don’t like your tone. Your probably one of those people, who vote for the other party.
I don’t like either of your tones. You’re both probably some of those people from a different country, who vote for some other parties. /s
My biggest complaint about Lemmy is really a complaint about me. I let myself get drawn in to multiple exhausting conversations today. Usually, it’ll be weeks between convos like that, but apparently the assholes are out in force today.
I need to remember that it’s okay to ignore people - but when they’ve decided that you’re WRONG, and won’t stop nagging you about it, it’s hard to just let things go.
When my instance was still federated with hexbear I would see these statements that I knew were wrong but they were said so confidently. I spent ages checking through history events to confirm that I was right and their post was complete history misinformation. Then I would reply with dates and explained what actually happened and then like 10 people from hexbear would chime in saying I’m wrong and double down on the original claim.
I got these same struggles, bud.
I use the “block” feature pretty liberally. If some random stranger is being an asshole, I don’t really see the need to continue engaging with them.
I did that on reddit and it was pretty fascinating to see that some people really can be assholes one day and then be helpful and friendly the next, I would’ve never noticed had I not blocked them. I agree with you though, if someone acts like conversations on the internet are a place for them to vent their anger then I want nothing to do with them.
I just ignore people who annoy me for the same reason. Either of us could be having a bad day or misunderstanding what the other is trying to communicate. It doesn’t mean they might not say something I want to read in the future - especially with smaller communities.
I used to really like the RES extension so I could tag people just in case I come across them again in the future. Both positive and negative experiences with people.
I’ve only blocked a handful of people like shallowboob (or whatever their name was) who karma farmed/karma bot and I just wasn’t interested anymore.
That’s interesting, not what I’d expect – but hey, everyone has their off days.
In an online space with more of a community feel, it would probably be worth extending a little more grace and patience. Lemmy doesn’t have that feel to me, though. It feels like having random conversations with strangers with no continuity.
I’ll admit, part of this is a pattern I started on reddit. I tried to curate my community list, but I made the – decision? mistake? – of including my city and state-specific subreddits. They were basically cesspits of racism and trolling compared to the good communities that I liked. There was also the increase in political propaganda bots over the years (not bad when I joined, terrible by time I left). I tried to avoid the worst offenders, but sometimes I’d get bored with my feed and click on the “all” feed. Bad idea.
I think lemmy.ml users are pretty well behaved and reasonable. Sometimes you get a rude response, it’s the internet.
I had a look at his post and none of them were actual lemmy.ml users
It seems like a lot of Lemmy users are slightly radical american “leftists”. This is an example of this on Lemmy.world. It seems that some users see Lemmy as a forum for politicly “left”-leaning americans, not a general purpose forum. Maybe some people prefer an echo chamber?
Fediverse can be confusing. But your link appears to be a post on !memes@lemmy.ml not world.
Lemmy.ml and lemmygrad, as well as the Lemmy software stack were started by leninists after getting pushed off reddit. If you don’t like it. And even as a leftist I can understand that. Since leninists tend to be blind, dogmatic, and somehow more authoritarian than a large chunk of capitalists. Block and avoid the domain. If you wander into their domain and push back. Be prepared for toxicity. Just like you yourself would likely give if they wandered into your areas and admonished you.
“slightly”.
That’s being very nice. The correct word would be anarchist.
I haven’t seen a single anarchist on Lemmy. Not even one.
The most obvious group, and the one this thread is about, is about as far as it’s possible to get from being anarchists.
“eat the rich” “destroy the institutions”
Etc… That’s not left. Insinuating killing it destroying societies is, by definition, anarchist.
Socialism, Communism are about change, not control or jealousy.
I don’t think you understand anarchism.
No - anarchism, by definition, is the complete absence of institutionalized authority.
Those around here who are calling for the destruction of institutions have no intention of creating a society free from the hierarchy of authority - they want to destroy the current authority merely so that they can replace it with their own.
Again, they’re about as far as it’s possible to get from being anarchists. They’re as authoritarian as fascists - they just have a different set of norms they want to forcibly impose, and a different set of people they’re eager to oppress and murder along the way.
Some lemmy instances are explicitly leftist and that’s something we all just need to accept. You can block those instances or you interact with them, but it’s not anyone’s place to tell an instance how to do things on their own server. There are general purpose instances as well.
that post says “Reddit has a center right bias” lmao
Right? Lmfao
This is especially true for lemmy.ml. Political arguments and circlejerking sometimes start in completely unrelated topics and comments literally saying that every right winger is a fascist get lots of upvotes. It’s like a distilled version of some far left subreddits.
I hate the political landscape on Lemmy. The fact that their are people who are unironically communists shows the lack of political maturity in those groups
I mean yeah, fuck cars, buuuuut, the infrastructure isn’t gonna change overnight so we still need them. And while we wait for that to happen, might as well tinker with them, because it’s fun.
c/mechanicadvice has been fun so far. Let me go find the link, 1 sec.
My n00b is showing lol I can’t figure out on voyager how to link/confirm which fediverse it’s on. There’s also c/air_cooled_volkswagens.
Edit: I figured it out lol
!air_cooled_volkswagens@lemmy.world !mechanicadvice@lemmy.world
Thank you for this I love air cooled VWs and Porsches
I don’t ever see cars disappearing until we figure out some sci-fi level of transportation. ICE is clearly going to fade out of existence in the next 20-30 years, but there’ll still be cars on the road - just hydrogen/battery powered.
Lemmy is a bit of a darkweb corner. It’s growing fast from Reddit users, but redditors are not particularly known for being the best form of the online argument either.
Like anywhere else, I’d say pick your communities carefully. And accept that a platform that is in shift and growth has a lot of potential for weird encounters. Try not to take the bad experiences too personally.
Something that takes a bit of adjustment that a lot of ex-Redditors here are yet to realize: the fediverse is specifically built for curating your experience overall. It’s not meant to replicate the Reddit’s everything all jumbled together experience. There technically is somewhat of a post algorithm to a degree on lemmy, but most of the fediverse doesn’t have that and what lemmy has is a very bare minimum. Follow the communities you are interested in and block the ones you really can’t vibe with. When more granular blocking and silencing comes especially on the admin end, it’ll be more easy to utilize that curation experience as well. No one here is forced to interact with you and you aren’t forced to interact with them, and if the person you cant vibe with is an instance admin or a community mod you can go somewhere you vibe better or start something new yourself instead if you have time and energy to do so.
Free yourself and block that community that raises your blood pressure. You aren’t missing anything, I promise.
This exactly. I keep my front page the list of my subscribed communities sorted by activity. And it’s all good in the hood. If I want to go looking for trouble then look at all sorted by activity. Just like or even more so than on reddit. Just throwing yourself out into the deep end of the stream to see what happens to float by is not a good idea for just starting to get involved. Follow what you like and slowly expand from there.
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Yes. Lots of communist and tankies who brigade hard.
If downvotes are the issue, beehaw.org doesn’t allow downvotes. Those folks are automatically eliminated from that. You can then just ignore the comments you don’t like and it’s all good. 👍
A few notes though:
- Beehaw does not allow for user-created communities. One could pitch an idea to the admins, but should not have high hopes.
- Beehaw is planing to test (non-federated) software other than Lemmy in a few months from now, because they are growingly dissatisfied with how the software works (esp. from an admin’s point of view). So if you wish to stay part of Lemmy/Kbin/other parts of the Fediverse you may wish to consider not making Beehaw your “home”. I in fact made this account on lemmings.world, because I wanted to have sufficient time ahead of that in order to “test the waters” so to speak. Pre-Beehaw I was on lemmy.ml, but this was in part because there was no federation yet (making everyone flock to the biggest of ~5 instances of Lemmy that existed at the time).
Users can post whatever they want. But anytime mods are dicks I hope that people call them out. So that if it is something I post to I can switch to another group.
I’m new to Lemmy from Reddit and I’m very confused about like Lemmy.world lemmy.ml. I understand subreddits the equivalent of what that is. But what do these .whatever’s change?
An instance is more like an own reddit and not a sub.
Lemmy.world is a reddit. Lemmy.ml is a reddit Feddit.de is a reddit
Each of them act like reddit does.
But those reddits connect to each other and you have access to the content and communities of the other instances.
All those instances have several communities which are like subs
It’s like Gmail and Outlook/Hotmail, different servers run by different people but you can talk across them
Think of it like email (lists). There can be a !fuckcars@lemmy.world and a !fuckcars@lemmy.ml (the latter doesn’t exist, but it could)
You can access both communities, subscribe to both and post to both. Their content is (mostly) identical, the only difference is who’s hosting it.
There is no central authority determining the rules. For instance, Reddit can ban whatever they like and allow whatever they like. That’s not how it works here. The only rules are what each community decides are their own rules. Certain communities, such as !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com no longer exist in some sort of tolerated limbo, unlike on Reddit where they could be shut down at a moment’s notice.
Oh that’s kinda neat. Do you have any suggestions for which you prefer or which most people like?
Well, since !fuckcars@lemmy.ml doesn’t exist, I prefer the one that does.
Usually, if there are multiple communities one is significantly more active than the others. For cats, check out these three
Only the last one is what I’d deem active.
They are individual copies of the Lemmyverse that all sync content with each other. That’s the ‘federation’ part. Some of them are weird and scary places, friend.
Have we officially reached the point where mainstream internet users don’t know how URLs work?
Just new to a website that I don’t know the logistics
Some of my comments get down voted for seemingly no reason, or because I went against the “norm”, but often i write a joke that falls flat.
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And what’s the deal with cops shooting people?? Have you seen this?
That was also the case on reddit though. It’s just the demographic making up the norm were somewhat different. So, different subjects will get that response.
My solution is posting from my own kbin instance. I only see the upvotes here :P
