• collapse_already@lemmy.ml
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    I think the real goal is to have CEOs of impacted companies pay big bucks directly to Trump to get special carved out exemptions for their company. “I didn’t bribe him. I paid $5M to stay at Mar a Lago.” (With the understanding that I could meet with him and explain why he should carve my company an exemption. ) When you are analyzing Trump’s actions always ask how is he getting richer and/or advancing Russian interests .

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    7 days ago

    Hasn’t Trump already said this? This isn’t the press sec saying anything Orange Mussolini hasn’t already been explicit about. It’s one of their talking points.

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    Canada should coordinate with the Hague. Invite trump to Canada at the same time the ICC issues a warrant.

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    I thought it was common knowledge already by that point. He wants Canada’s resources and strategically advantageous geographical location.

    The US government is broke. The spending and debt are out of control and their political system has become too dysfunctional to fix it intelligently. He hopes that annexing Canada and exploiting its resources unhindered by regulation will magically solve the problem.

    Canadians, do not fall for it. Trump wants you to work in his mines.

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      If there is one thing I can promise you, it’s that you don’t have to tell Canadians not to fall for it. Annexation is a non starter, there is literally no argument that could be given regardless of validity. The fact that any promises are obvious lies is wholly irrelevant.

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      That’s the stupid part, we’re not broke. We’re not bogged down with debt, we own the debt, we’re overspending on American business and economic output, just because we spend money and have national debt dosen’t mean we are collapsing, our corporate stock market based economy needs infinite growth, so gov spending is going to ALSO always go up. That’s really basic shit. He isn’t fixing a desperate problem, he’s looting the fucking country and hoping he gets it all done in time for a Russian airline loaded with gold to take him safely home.

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      A LOT to unpack here:

      A. The U.S. government is broke!? That is one of the dumbest takes I’ve seen in a while. Makes it difficult to take any other part of your post seriously.

      Currently run by fascist morons that my fellow fascist citizens elected, yes. Broke, not fucking remotely true.

      B. No one takes it seriously that he is going to somehow magically take over Canada. He says that shit because he is either so stupid, he actually believes he can, or is just saying it to get under Canadian’s skin. (Probably both).

      C. “Canada’s strategically advantageous geographical location.”. What strategic importance does Canada’s location have? We already have Alaska. Is there some secret shipping lanes, or laser polar bears we don’t know about?

      Resources? Your shale sands oil sucks and has to be piped to the US anyway, to be processed.

      You have a lot of wood I guess? We have a TON of resources here, it’s just been cheaper to mine elsewhere because environmental law, makes it pretty expensive to exploit. He’s in the process of gutting those.

      Canada just needs to keep doing what it is doing and tell us to fuck off. (Kind of like what we both do to our indigenous populations.)

      He’ll eventually drive our economy into the dirt, and fuck over the dumbass blue color voters (that he supposedly champions), and maybe, just maybe, the Democrats will get behind a true progressive instead of a Susan Collins, Hillary Clinton type cunt.

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        A: The US debt is about to get out of control and the government is too dysfunctional to fix it. Whatever moronic destruction Musk is doing is not what will help. Trump is making it even worse too

        B: It doesn’t matter how noncredible a plan it is. Trump has pulled every lever he can to do what he wants unhindered by anyone with a functioning brain and now he wants to annex the country by trying to destroy its economy, even if it doesn’t succeed at annexing the country, he will still damage Canada’s economy.

        C: Canada controls the Northwest passage and is the key to controlling the Arctic. By itself it is forecast to become a viable and profitable shipping route thanks to global warming. It is about to become a huge economic lever against China’s exports. There is a reason why Trump wants to control the Panama canal again as well.

        D: Resources: There is a vast wealth of minerals and potentially undiscovered oil about to become cheaply accessible once the North opens to shipping. There is also a huge reserve of fresh water that the US covets.

        There is a reason why Russia is pushing to take control of the North. Even China made claims that they are a “near arctic state” which is laughable, but clearly indicates that they want to throw their hat into the ring to gain access to the wealth that buried below ground there.

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            Why do you think Panama and Canada came up on the same day. Yea, Northwest Passage.

            Thank you for clearly outlining the depth of your analysis.

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              I looked it up and you are clearly delusional that this “Northwest Passage” is some kind of major shipping lane or has any real value at all.

              It wasn’t even clear of ice until 2009 and is reported to be as shallow as 15’ in many parts.

              Keep building this fantasy of yours. It is entertaining.

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            I think the Northwest Passage being referred is the Elizabeth Islands which is a geographical choke point not unlike the Strait of Malacca. If the Arctic sea ice fully melts then it’ll be a very important location to control traffic going to and from the Eastern Seaboard. The only way around coming from Russia is to go East of Greenland. Trump wants Canada and Greenland to act as a shield against Russia and to a lesser extent, China.

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              If that’s his goal (big if) that’s the stupidest way possible. Could’ve literally asked they probably would’ve. Also if that’s his goal why is he simultaneously removing the Russian embargo. This is all also ignoring that krasnov is a Russian asset

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    “Is that how the US will be treating all of their allies from now on?”

    Would have been an important follow up question.

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      Shocking how few of these there are. Where the hell is the White House Press Corps? Don’t answer that I know they don’t really exist anymore and haven’t for close to two decades now.

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    Not that any of this is sensible or reasonable, but… why? Why is there any obsession at all with adding Canada as a state? Where did this idea even come from and for what purpose?

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        And control of all this water, important strategically for Russia, I mean the USA. And Russia.

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            Shhh! Don’t spoil Trump’s War On Christmas plan to drone strike Santa Claus!

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            Yes. It’s not actually all blue water like it looks here. But there’s less and less, and Russia has ice breakers that can deal with a certain amount of ice. Arctic shipping routes are becoming more useful and valuable as the Arctic warms.

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      Under the hypothesis that Russia influences Trump, the point is to drive a wedge between the USA and all other Western democracies, the same way it attempts to create conflict between factions within the USA and other democratic nations.

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      My presumption is that the goal is to establish one homogeneously plutocratic and oligarchic landmass, broken up only by the Bering Strait, running all the way from Florida to Eastern Europe.

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      Yanks have always been upset we didn’t join them way back. That and they cannot let go of manifest destiny.

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        IDK, man. Indiana born and raised, and I’ve never in my life have I even heard about the notion or desire to have Canada merge with the US. It seemingly came out of nowhere and now a ton of idiots are acting like it’s genius and even an absolutely imperative now.

        But other expanding the US’s land and people, and eliminating another sovereign state, what would even be different? Is the expansion the point itself, some weird compulsion to gain control of our neighbors? Or is there some other motivation? It’s probably oil isnt it… it’s always oil.

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          what would even be different?

          So this sounds like ignorant American exceptionalism. Stuff that fucking noise.

          YOU may not have heard it (and I can’t link sources), but I have in modern media and from dipshits on the internet.

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            So this sounds like ignorant American exceptionalism. Stuff that fucking noise.

            That is certainly not what I meant, nor is American Exceptionalism a sentiment I hold. I meant that we already enjoyed free trade between our countries before Trump. Already share resources back and forth. Already have closely related cultures and history. Already have military joint operations. Canada has been our closest ally for centuries. Becoming a state, then, doesn’t seem like it would make a ton of differences that the average US citizen would want or even see on the whole. I can see where a narcissist like Trump wants to bully people, take control, be a dictator, etc. But it would make as much direct difference to my life as losing Iowa to the Portuguese would. Obviously if you are in Canada (or Iowa) and suddenly belong to a new county, that will make a make huge difference to you. But if you’re a Tennessean tobacco farmer, why do you think it’s really important that Canada joins the US? They certainly seem to all of the sudden. That is what I meant by “what would even be different?”

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      I’ve been hearing Americans “joke” about Canada becoming the 51st state all my life. The fact that there’s a country on the same land-mass as them, who’s people largely speak the same language as them and who has a similar culture to them but doesn’t want to be part of their country runs counter to the “Greatest Country in the World” propaganda that they’ve been indoctrinated with since childhood.

      Most of the time, however, the politicians elected to high office are educated enough to know why annexing Canada would be a bad idea, but Trump’s mentality never evolved beyond the schoolyard, and those are the ideas that he’s bringing to the White House.

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    Obvious follow up question: if Canada becomes the 51st state, wouldn’t that remove the barriers that is keeping all that imaginary fentanyl out of the US?

    Do journalists even have brains any more?

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      Yeah, but they’ve been claiming it was just a joke.

      We know better, of course, but that was what they were pretending.

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    It always feels like they have real reporters in the seats at these things, and a bunch of younger reporters asking softball scripted questions standing around.

    Am I the only one that feels this way?

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      Wouldn’t that be amazing? All this blatant racism and hatred of Mexican people and suddenly they all end up citizens? That would be wild. I’m sure that’s why they’re not saying it. Though I would wager it wouldn’t take long for them to justify the annexing of the territory without giving citizenship to the people there.